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Commenting from my alt to avoid doxxing myself. Have spent over a decade in various 'large' streaming video companies, the ones you absolutely know about today.

DTAG is bar none the worst ISP to work with. Everything they do is politics, they may decide to 'forget' to increase the bandwidth on a PNI until you take a meeting with german regulators. Almost every other ISP views PNI as the best way to uphold customer satisfaction without breaking the bank over a more expensive IX and will happily add ports when needed, DTAG on the other hand often requires concessions and selective agreements with a lot of strings attached.

I don't think Germans realize just how much DTAG is holding the experience back for end users (given it's partially state-owned)

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>I don't think Germans realize just how much DTAG is holding the experience back for end users

The ones not on HN probably just notice that their internet is getting slow after 5 p.m

Trust me, I know how much they suck and I still had to enter a 2-year contract just to get fiber optics in my house.

They tried to install it to our home too, but our landlord just didn't do anything to help them to open doors and now we've been soon waiting two years for the connection.

The more I read about DTAG the happier I feel like using our cable connection which, upstream excluded, works quite well.

We're about to buy our apartment in Berlin and that changes things. I hope we have soonpre choice on the fiber operator.

I thought I was crazy for thinking that Reddit LinkedIn and half of the internet becomes unusable past 6pm.. now I know why

Cloudflare has a speed test. Try comparing it to other speed tests around the same time. Should reveal if Dtag is congested/throttling your traffic to Cloudflare sites vs others.

https://speed.cloudflare.com/

Could also check the official Breitbandmessung by the BNetzA They also have some interesting statistic by provider, etc. on there. https://www.breitbandmessung.de

How can I learn about which ISPs have better peering and net neutrality etc? Are there websites that keep track of this and compare it?

Unfortunately, it's not just DTAG but all Internet providers are overpriced crap here.

There are some good regional ones, operated by public utilities mostly.

Insane pings, excellent peering, giving a totally different internet experience from the mainstream ones.

As a german I hate DTAG with a passion for many many failures in throttling and just for the most expensive prices in europe. I just hate Vodafone more which is a hard thing to achieve but there are no other options in most cities.

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