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Second day in a row seeing a post like, it will be censored in 3 2 1 ...

Can’t allow anything to get in the way of those yc startups seeking ICE contracts. The tech-bro elite need to make their $$$ assisting in hunting down modern day Anne Franks.

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It's fascinating to learn how IBM, Hugo Boss, or BMW could've been involved with the Nazis, by watching the present day: Just look at how Zuck, Bezos, Google's CEO were at the front row of the Trump inauguration and surrendered before even a fight, because hey, "I need to deliver value to my stockholders!", or in the case of Zuck I think it's more "Gotta make sure I stay in the 3-commas-club!".

Meanwhile there's a flagged to death comment about policing the border and illegal immigrants. Oh yeah, the 2 year old "illegal immigrant", he's out to take your job!

I really enjoy this site and its community. But it’s time to let the community speak to itself and stop censoring these things.

Well it’s weird because there are a 195 counties on the planet and they’re all, to one degree or another, negatively effected by illegal immigration because all countries require legal citizenship.

Okay? What point are you trying to make?

I’m not making a point, a made an observation.

No, you didnt. You basically said illigal immigration is bad because its illegal. You didnt include positive effects, like economic contribution. That positive conclusion about immigration is scientific consensus btw. Its easy to find if you dare to observe it.

I’m liberal so I believe in governmental regulation which includes legal immigration and labor rights. I believe illegal immigrants shouldn’t be exploited by private businesses and citizens should be paid a living wage.

Add a "well integrated illegal immigrants should have a path to citizenship" and you would contradict your first comment about illegal immigrants being harmful. What legallity is, is not written is stone.

If you’re a conservative capitalist that would sound good but I’m liberal. My understanding of government and liberalism is consistent with that of people like Bernie Sanders and Noam Chomsky. What you’re suggesting, by their standards, is a paradox.

Is either Noam Chomsky or Bernie Sanders a liberal, though? It sounds like you're very confused about what you believe - almost like a conservative's straw man idea of a liberal.

Noam Chomsky is far left and Bernie Sanders is also more liberal than a Democrat. Here is Sanders saying the same thing I did https://youtube.com/watch?v=vf-k6qOfXz0&pp=2AYH

I’m confused, what do you think a liberal is?

Liberals are people who believe in liberalism. This necessarily precludes them from being on the far left (and has for well over a century).

In the US “liberal” is often used as a short hand for “left wing”, Isaiah Berlin calls it ‘negative liberty’. Noam Chomsky describes himself as a ‘libertarian socialist’ and Bernie Sanders describes himself as a ‘democratic socialist’, both of these political stances are left wing, some would says “far left”.

Do you think that observation gives immigration enforcement agencies a right to execute citizens who are exercising their rights, and then completely lie about it?

A U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent is authorized to use deadly force by the Department of Homeland Security only when an officer has a reasonable belief that the subject poses an imminent threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others.

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