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I'm very happy with MimeStream. I get gmail, without the UX of gmail, and something that I can command-tab into, instead of a browser window.

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Looked up Mimestream. So it's a subscription-based app that basically gives you nicer UI/UX for your google emails. Oof.

$50/year for a nice app that I use on a daily basis to make my life better? Worth every penny.

But google still is presumably still training their AIs on your email content regardless if you don't use their frontend.

OPs issue was more clearly directed at "A week or two ago I was surprised to see a Google Gemini summary at the top of my email on my phone", which Mimestream doesn't include.

The rest of the complaint was about a bug that happened, just today, with sorting and spam control.

OP meaning the author of the linked article? Maybe I missed the mark but I felt his main rejection of Gmail ended up being because they train their AI based on his private and or commercial data.

OP = original poster

"I tried to turn it off. I can."

The complaint was about the summary, which Mimestream doesn't include.

Only on HN will someone who makes money writing software complain that other fellow developers are asking for money from him for their software.

That is not what my comment is about.

You might want to edit your comment to explain because that was my own takeaway as well.

I agree with your comment fully, but it also doesn't follow the guidelines.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Fair enough!

No, you probably haven't read the conversation piece. The post is ultimately about switching providers because Google's service crosses a line from (1) targeted advertising to (2) using personal and confidential information for model training.

A service to clean up the UI does nothing to solve the issue at hand.

"I tried to turn it off. I can."

The complaint was about the summary, which Mimestream doesn't include.

The dealbreaker was data usage for AI training, not UI:

"We are going to use your email to train our LLMs. I'm not okay with that... my confidential commercial information is NOT okay to use to train your models [...] So... goodbye Gmail."

The title is Bye Bye Gmail.

They admit they can turn that off.

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