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> logging into MS Teams

I mean, this is one application nobody should ever log into!

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That's nice.

I, however, like getting my paycheck, and so I have no choice.

Of course. But I suppose you run Teams on a company provided/managed, or at least paid for by the company, device?

Just don’t use that machine for anything private.

Is anyone using their private devices for work? (Also there is teams for Linux and on the web, if that is not prevented by the policy of your org.)

In the startup world, BYOD is/was exceedingly common. All but two jobs of my career were happy to allow me to use my own Linux laptop and eschew whatever they were otherwise going to give me.

Obviously enterprises aren’t commonly BYOD shops, but SMBs and startups certainly can be.

… whether the people who would do such BYOD things are at all likely to be Windows users who care about this Bitlocker issue, is a different debate entirely.

Then the founders do something really stupid, and the law decides that your equipment may be evidence.

Unless you're a founder, you should always use company provided equipment.

I’ve been diving down the BYOD rabbit hole recently. At enterprise scale it’s not “hook in with your vpn, job done”, it’s got to be managed. Remote wipe on exit, prove the security settings, disk encryption, EDR.

What this means for the user is your personal device is rather invasively managed. If you want Linux, your distro choice may be heavily restricted. What you can do with that personal device might be restricted (all the EDR monitoring), and you’ll probably take a performance and reliability hit. Not better than just a second laptop for most people.

All of that won't stop anyone from exfiltrating whatever they want to exfiltrate.

Of course, but like so many of these things, it’s about compliance audits and insurance. Actual effectiveness is a distant concern.

Any good reading tips on doing managed Linux devices in a startup/SMB?

I know BYOD was common (although getting a fully specced MacBook Pro was often one of the “perks”), but typically you did get (some) budget or reimbursement for using your own device. So in a sense the company was paying for your device which allows you to buy a dedicated machine.

I also notice that it helps in segmenting in the brain to use separate devices for private and business use.

>All but two jobs of my career were happy to allow me to use my own Linux laptop

But they wouldn't have provided you with a corporate device if you asked?

That means you’ll do that on the work machine provided by your employer, not on your personal machine.

teams works fine in website form for me because it IS a website (that uses an extra ~1gb of ram running as a desktop app because its also a separate browser)

Reportedly, that’s how they’re making the Start Menu now, too.

That's actually a misunderstanding that blew up to an outright lie:

The Start Menu is fully native. The "Recommended" section (and only it) is powered by a React Native backend, but the frame & controls are native XAML. (I.e. there's a JS runtime but no renderer)

Teams in the browser, on Linux. That is reasonably harmless.

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