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Yeah, that line, "people say Zoom is secure", instantly reminded me of how they opened a port on localhost that any website could connect to to run admin shit on the system. So I wonder, who says it's secure?

Never mind the government surveillance.

Yeah I have to use Zoom for work, but I wrote a little script that installs it without the background services and privileged helper tools

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jamesy0ung/zoom_grabber/re...

I found a zoom daemon running on my kid's MacBook a year after uninstalling it. Turns out uninstall didn't kill background processes, needed a reboot to flush it away.

I swear I remember this being called a feature, they left something around after uninstall so that if you clicked a Zoom link it could reinstall the client seamlessly. An ease-of-use thing for less technical people.

i am more impressed that the MacBook had a year uptime. The kid never rebooted it?

Kiddo didn't care to reboot it, just closed the lid when the schoolwork was done.

Most of our home machines (Intel) are never rebooted, still on High Sierra or Catalina.

You didn't restart the laptop for an entire year? That means you also didn't install any updates...