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It's Sundowning in America

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America or United States?

Unflag this. Obviously relevant to tech.

Trump is just another crazy person. It's the junta of followers, senators, congresspersons, that is allowing all of this to continue.

Based on Trump’s current approval rating (42%) I think 1/3 of Americans are lunatics. These people are not going away and cannot be put down. America’s sundown is unstoppable.

The problem with non-compulsory voting is that only highly motivated actually vote.

In this case the highly motivated are becoming lunatics.

By whose professional standards, and what ideological positions do they hold?

They are lunatics by very basic standards. Like do not shot protesters in the face. Do not invade other countries that did nothing to you. Do not threaten other countries that did nothing to you. Do not break doors without a warrant from a judge. Do not support a pedophile covering up his crimes.

1/3 of Americans support these lunacies - hence they are lunatics. And unfortunately they are too many. So America's sundown is inevitable.

None of which are in the DSM-5, which is the standard for diagnosis by licensed professionals.

Now if you just want to call them something subjective and not scientifically proven, that’s fine.

Here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring

From a technical standpoint, of course they can be put down. Just like you can be put down for obviously being a thought terrorist, you just said they are lunatics and now you are a potential threat to them.

See how easy it is to make you an enemy of the state that needs to be neutralized before you can become trouble?

As soon as those 42% become the majority they will start to think about to put the opposition down. Because that is what lunatics do.

You and I talk things out, others ask you what kind of American you are with an ar-15 aimed at your chest. Guess who wins that argument? It’s not one of us two. It’s the guy throwing our bodies in a ditch.

American law enforcement is already executing people protesting the lunatic behavior in plain sight and the vice president said they have full immunity doing so. You are no longer allowed to talk about reality, there is only one reality now, that of the president and his inner circle.

Once the military is deployed via the insurrection act you have people who are trained killers with absolute immunity on the streets that can easily rally up the opposition, and there will be no concentration camps or body’s piling up.

Yes, a US soldier can decline any unlawful order but what is unlawful is decided by the man that according to your Supreme Court has unlimited power. They were trained to kill terrorists and you are a terrorist now. They get a raise and a medal, why would they decline the order to kill what the government deemed valid targets and Terrorists?

Trump also has it easier than the nazis.

We live in the 21st century, the Nazis had a major logistics problem. People physically had to look at Jewish people getting starved and transported like cattle to the concentration camps in trains. The holocaust is very well documented because it all happened in plain sight.

The US troops made German citizens walk through the camps after they freed what was left of the poor Jewish souls surviving the nazi atrocities. Please watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SUXTq47mmc

those civilians all knew what happened there and you can see it in their faces. They did do shit about people who were born in Germany and had the same passport getting slaughtered in the millions.

What makes you think your peers are different if their life and those of everyone they love is under constant threat via government ai surveillance and the military roaming the streets, kicking in the doors of your neighbors and friends and they never reappear?

Today we have mobile incineration plants.

The small waste incinerator market is soaring https://www.globalmarketstatistics.com/market-reports/small-...

and Russia shows how easy it is to let people disappear in those to hide casualties from the press and people at home.

You also got a pretty bunch of those containerized incinerators in every major US city after Covid bodies were piling up in hospitals and had to be disposed efficiently and out of sight from the press. You already have the holocaust infrastructure in place.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/02/23/russia-dep...

It doesn’t need to go in this direction, but seriously do you think this is an unrealistic scenario with everything you see happening in the US day by day?

Guess we will find out sooner than later. I really hope I’m wrong with everything, but be sure if push comes to shove, we Germans will return the favor and free the US from the fascists this time.

Keep your heads down and your spirit up, trump will pass one or the other way and hopefully we can go back to a saner version of shared reality than this nonsense we currently live in.

Yes because they value the party higher than sane policies. They know if they abandon Trump now, they'll need to make a new party

Trump, for all his supposed villany is not a complicated person. He's motivated deeply by greed and little else. That's not very unique really. The authoritarianism is a sideline. Fascism doesnt seem to be that important to him, that seems to originate with Stephen Miller, and is consistent with his resume and the hires from the Heritage Foundation.

Good strategy. Don't blame the king, blame his counselors. It's always the sensible thing to do in an absolute monarchy.

I notice folks wasting so much time blaming him when clearly everything is being managed behind the scenes by them

If you are looking for people to blame look at Trump supporters. 42% of Americans support Trump - even after grabbing Maduro and after giving immunity to that ICE killer in Minessota. These lunatics are not going away and cannot be put down. America’s decline is inevitable at this point. Change my mind:).

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