We are there as well. Most partners and clients use Windows. Most of them therefore had exchange and moved to the cloud. Most of them got 'Teams' for free in the package, chat and meetings.
Now we see a zoom link and go 'euuuuugh', yuck. hipster yuck.
Give me Teams
Upsides seem to be, its back to xmpp where we can communicate with anyone
Downside is, its total lock-in to microsoft.
This just goes to show how badly Microsoft (or other owners before) messed up with skype. They had an opportunity to own the entire thing.
Google’s offering isn’t much better either. I tried the same thing, going with safari, tested my connection, all was well. Then came time to share screen. No go! Kept complaining I need to enable permissions in safari for hangout that were already enabled.
Zoom just works on the other hand.
It isn’t Microsoft’s fault that Safari is a shit browser and the macOS people who keep it as their default won’t switch to something better.
You can uncheck automatically update and install.
You can decide whether or not to run the background service at all at the OS level.
This is a really strange hill to die on because your OS and other programs already have similar functionality, you are just saying no to Microsoft specifically. Chrome runs a background process to stay up to date, for example.
I realize that i can disable the service of course, but then i end up with outdated software.
Microsoft offers you all three options and you don’t like any of them.
I don’t quite understand what mystery fourth option you prefer Microsoft provides for you.
Going back to my original comment, you could have tried Teams in a real web browser before deciding it sucks. Safari is trash.
Your "something better" is certainly Chrome.
But that's irellevant because the likes of teams and google chat are made for management and at best sales, while slack is made for engineers.
I don’t really know or care as an end user if WebKit represents browser choice. The fact is they Apple isn’t putting enough effort in to making their browser engine “just work” with popular websites.
If it was a requirement in iOS and a default in macOS nobody would choose it by choice. It would be dead as a doornail if it competed in a free market.
In my experience a comparatively broke Mozilla Foundation makes a better browser experience than the most profitable consumer electronics company in the world. Apple needs to do better.
Apple can’t blame developers for their browser’s inconsistency.
Firefox has 1/10th of Apple’s market share and that browser is clearly more compatible with websites in my experience.
Whenever I have some kind of rendering issue or functionality glitch in Safari I switch to Firefox and it works fine.
Like, dear lord safari can’t even implement the back button normally. The behavior is terrible. It’s like you see a static screenshot of the precious page and everything is frozen for a second, and then if you’re lucky it unfreezes and at worst your scroll position gets messed up, or you’re unlucky and the entire page reloads.
Apple can’t even make the back button behave smoothly.
Popular doesn’t mean good. Safari sucks.
From the perspective of someone who solely owns an iPhone they’d probably see a chromium monopoly as an upgrade.
My favorite was when I entered VR during our standup on our otherwise quite locked down and very corporate environment.