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The ads are a problem (or will be, when the temptation to add them to paid plans becomes too great), but the bigger problem in my opinion is going to be the "SEO" that companies will do to make their ads appear in places that they don't belong.

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There are already SEO companies that are trying to ensure a site’s content is being referenced by ChatGPT, so it’s already a thing.

Google and other search engines are already failing to surface real results, it feels like the general forces of SEO have already flooded the internet with AI generated articles. I am honestly gobsmacked by the speed of the turn around, finding real articles can be quite tricky. It matters for niche topics because the details matter, and they seem to be using cheap models to generate and spin the articles.

It isn't surprising, when article spinners were popular SEO experts were generating thousands of spun articles a day.

Its already here - its called GEO and their are silicon valley startups already pumping out crap to feed next gen models so that you ensure you're product is baked into the weights

The next gen of models are going to need very strict sanitising of input articles as I think the sheer volume of GPT SEO spam is going to be, or already is, quite staggering. Model collapse might not be what happens but certainly a dilution of quality in training data.

This looks like a workflow problem more than a model problem. When inputs aren’t controlled, scale amplifies noise faster than understanding. Tools improve, but the decision boundaries stay the bottleneck.

  "SEO" that companies will do to make their ads appear in places that they don't belong.

So all ads.. as a society we give away our most coveted real estate (physical and digital) for consumer propaganda.

Hilarious example btw

The ARPU will likely remain low enough that it's not worth potential churn to competitors

That's fine until all their competitors are doing it as well

Seems very unlikely considering the current equilibrium is for many services to offer ad-free premium versions, even recently creating these tiers. If anything the trend is moving in the other direction, more services offer paid ad free tiers.

Youtube, Spotify, Amazon Prime video, etc

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