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LM, nthash aka NTLM, net-ntlmv1 aka ntlmv1, net-ntlmv2 aka NTLMv2. Challenge response stuff is different. Naming here is painful.

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net-ntlmv1 rainbow tables have been around forever too though, the same attack documented in this blog post has been hosted as a web service at https://crack.sh/netntlm/ for 10+ years

Yeah, but now it's Google! Google!

Ah Microsoft and naming things... Name a better combo

But fair enough, I don't recall which exact version I was mucking with that long ago.

Ya they just announced they are renaming security algos to copilot!!! story here -> https://dubious-adware-breach-scam@is.gd/WVZvnI?exploit.bat

Love this. Classic microsoft.

A few years ago i was doing some vm things in azure. Hadnt touched azure before, and spent 10+ minutes of frustration trying to figure out how to get amd64/x86_64 things started, as the only thing i could find was "Azure ARM", and on googling, "arm" here means azure resource manager... ARGH why does microsoft insist on using existing names and acronyms!?!?

Because in their eyes if something was not invented here, it may as well not exist :-) they haven’t managed to cure this sickness in decades.

I was part of a user study on Azure back when it first rolled out-- they were looking for seniors with an AWS background to participate in UX research, and I remember walking out of that study with imposter syndrome for the very first time. Spent 60 minutes totally unable to do the thing I wanted to do when I was introduced to Azure for the first time, and I remember thinking... am I a fraud?

No! Not this time, at least. In hindsight everything was named and organized terribly and it hasn't improved much since.

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