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As an American I'm rooting for everyone else these days. Good for Canada. I hope the EU builds stronger trade with China too and America gets left in the cold to whither and die. Trump, Vance, Miller, Noem, Musk, Bezos all of them just forgotten about and completely irrelevant to the rest of the world.

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I feel the same way about the US, but China is even worse. It’s basically what the US is becoming but still further down the road of authoritarianism. So I’m not rooting for it. EU, Canada, Japan etc are a better allay this point.

The US just has better propaganda.

When the Chinese press criticizes Xi in the way that the non-Fox press criticize Trump, I'll start listening to such claims. Until then, you're showing either massive ignorance or reckless disregard of the truth.

Now that Bari Weiss is running CBS there’s at least one fewer network to worry about. But you’re right, there’s still plenty of Trump criticism to be found, for now.

life isn't easy in china, necessarily, but there's a better, accessible path to become middle class. not in the US. the US is so stratified with wealth inequality and systems to keep people down. People in HN are oblivious with thier $1MM TC.

Ok, so you are a poor peasant (erm farmer) in rural China with a 9th grade education (the compulsory minimum in China) in say a poor province like Jiangxi, there are around 500 million of you, what’s your easier path to the middle class than if you were in the USA?

move to the city? The delivery app guys can earn a decent living. no education required.

Delivery guys in China are not considered middle class.

sure dude. they can earn a living. they won't be in a debt spiral like most people here who have no advantages.

> life isn't easy in china, necessarily, but there's a better, accessible path to become middle class.

You set the bar in your original comment, I didn’t raise it.

> they won't be in a debt spiral like most people here who have no advantages.

Ant tribe life is debt free, but it isn’t really living by our standards. At least we can say it’s better than living on the streets even if such housing isn’t allowed in the west.

sure? we're stuck with incel red pilled men who are nazi curious cuz they can't catch a break. great outcomes.

You realize there are a lot people (who aren't in the administration and didn't vote for them) that would be significantly hurt if all that happened. These people are your family, your friends, your neighbors, your coworkers. You hate Trump so much that you'd prefer to see all those people suffer than have him succeed?

I strongly disagree with most of what Trump says and does, but I can't root for an outcome that would make my kids' quality of life be much worse. I'd much rather see us right the ship.

We're already at the point where the president's secret police are throwing flashbang grenades into cars full of kids.

You have already lost. We are far past the problems you're worried about. The worst case is already here. It's happening now.

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