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So the “ICE agent” presented identification to her showing he was law enforcement? Nope. Oh so he got out of a vehicle marked as ICE? Nope.

Do you want to live in a country where an unidentified masked individual with a gun can say “im a fed”, stop a car and force someone out without proper ID? That’s what you’re in support of. I’d say one would have a right to self defense.

Also internal bleeding was literally just a bruise, like the internal bleeding I get from walking into the corner of my coffee table.

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This is such a bizarre argument because the entire reason the two women were there in the first place is because they thought they were following ICE agents. Both women were part of "ICE Watch", an anti-ICE activist group. They had been following the agents around throughout the day, attempting to disrupt them, which is why the car was parked perpendicular in the street (to block the ICE vehicles) prior to the incident.

So to claim the women didn't know it was Federal law enforcement ordering them to exit the vehicle is baffling to me because that was the entire reason the women were there in the first place.

> Both women were part of "ICE Watch", an anti-ICE activist group

Based.

> which is why the car was parked perpendicular in the street (to block the ICE vehicles) prior to the incident.

That giant ass street that could fit three of her car across its entire width? The one where she was signaling them to go around her? It doesn't sound like she was very effective at disrupting ICE.

But even if she was the most effective giant-road-blocking ICE inconveniencer Minneapolis has ever seen, she still should not have been murdered by ICE. It's morally indefensible, there's no world wherein she deserved to be shot unless she had a gun and was shooting first.

While I agree she knew who they were and disagree with the other person’s implication that she could have not known, in the US we are entirely within our rights to monitor law enforcement, despite attempts to end it (see what recently happened in Louisiana with bans on filming police within 25ft). So what you see as a provocation or “looking for trouble,” I see as exercising her rights and doing her civic duty. I imagine your opinion would change if you agreed with what she was doing a la “ one man’s terrorist is another’s freedom fighter.”

The sad reality is these people need to be monitored. If they think nobody is watching then they will behave worse than they already are. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_Cave

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