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Secret ICE Programs Revealed

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What's Palantir's federal contracts valued at like 900 million this year alone, seem's more like IBM selling counting machines if you know what I mean.

And for those that don't, OP is referencing that IBM sold counting machines to Hitler's Third Reich.

The point about ICE’s actions and attitude coloring the public’s perception of all law enforcement is spot on. I would expect legit law enforcement to protect us from such thuggery, but instead they stand by and do nothing, or worse, actively assist.

ACAB was a thing long before anyone heard of ICE, as well as the "defund the police" movement after the George Floyd protests. The public's perception of law enforcement was already low, and rightly so.

There was some pushback from your average liberal because they thought that it was too extreme, that we needed some folks to protect us and enforce the laws. But with what's going on with ICE, I'm seeing even some of the staunchest whitest liberals finally realize that law enforcement simply cannot be trusted ever, and for good reason. The only people still arguing otherwise are either the old, wealthy democrats sitting on their asses as people get beaten in the streets or the would-be fascists barely keeping the mask on.

As a European, it’s fairly easy to spot fascism. I fear Americans are less tuned to that as back then it didn’t happen directly in their backyards as it did here. The parallels of how Hitler came to and consolidated power are off the charts. What I find particularly interesting is the role of new media and technology in both cases: back then it was radio and TV and propagandists like Leni Riefenstahl; today it’s social media, AI and propagandists like Elon Musk. Nazis weren’t some devil-obsessed demons, they were regular people driven to the worst of their humanity by evil ideology and the government that explicitly orchestrated and demanded it. In the end, it took tens of millions of people to fix that; I fear the bill might come even higher this time

Americans who haven't figured it out need to ask a German about that salute.

So who are they going to attack this time, the Jews again? Donald Trump and Beniamin Benjamin Netanyahu look like best friends.

Latinos and blacks, plus (as with the Nazis) homosexuals and anybody they can call a "communist".

Jews are safe for the moment, but I wouldn't count on it forever. Netanyahu will not be in charge of Israel much longer. The new government will still want to be a US ally but is nowhere near as close to Trump and opposes a lot of the policies Netanyahu endorses.

The screenshots of internal documents show positive results:

"[...] resulted in 6 stash houses being identified"

"[resulted in the] identification of 135 stash houses"

"692 apprehensions"

Collab with FBI, USBP...

etc., etc.

I don't see how this is supposed to look bad for ICE. It actually makes them look good.

It is the "they are terror group kind of like Gestapo" part. It is the "murder and then celebrate murder" part. The "kidnap people, beat them, throw them out" part. It is the "run out of the car, kidnap citizen" part. It is the "throw flashbang and teargas on law obeying people" part. It is the "blind a legal protester". With honorable mention of beating a female woman for going to doctor.

It is also the "their violence is staggering" and "they operations have no respect to law" and "they actually intentionally terrorize citizens too" parts.

All mentioned in article and well documented at this point.

I didn't see anything in there about working with the judicial system to ensure due process. Identifying and apprehending people is a bad thing when there is no due process.

What metric do you want to judge ICE by if not their number of apprehensions, stash houses raided, etc.?

People incorrectly apprehended, assaulted, or killed seems like it might be a value you want in that equation.

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