Entertaining the idea that they could be wrong goes against their principles.
Entertaining the idea that they could be wrong goes against their principles.
I'm a libertarian who actually believes in a society based around individual liberty and limited government, and doesn't just pay lip service to it. If we had a blue-flavored government, and it was performing similarly liberty-abhorrent actions on a different topic, I would be criticizing those as well.
But we don't, and the current government has escalated so far beyond even the hanging-by-a-thread norms that we previously had, I think it's utterly naive to think any of this is about "immigration enforcement" in the first place.
I don't know who "our" refers to, but it certainly is an abuse of my principles.
Which is exactly why I do not make emotional appeals in my comments, and stick to what I can factually verify, including with timestamps in video footage and citations of the relevant legal standards. And why I clearly argue for where others are factually wrong instead of making blanket assertions without evidence.
It is my interlocutors who are making emotional appeals and claims that are not supported by the evidence, up to the point of accusing me of "lying" about video depicting things even as I clearly point to the exact points in the video that clearly depict them.
I've had two prior of these threads where I went around in circles tediously refuting these types of emotional appeals, so forgive me if my patience is shot on that front.
If you want to see where I am coming from rather than writing me off as one of the caricatures your media sources have told you to pigeonhole the opposition into, you can just read those threads in full: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46557993 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46543786
But as I said, my only real question to you is how many more Americans need to be killed before you admit that maybe us critics have a point about the methods being used here.