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Another dishonest article using the generic "immigrant" to drum up false sympathy... anyone being targeted by facial recognition by definition has to be known to law enforcement already; these aren't legal citizens and they aren't illegal immigrants who work hard and keep their heads down.

Was glad to hear ICE in my area of Massachusetts the other week grabbed several sex pests (including ones convicted of crimes against minors in their home countries). At best, "criminal justice system refugees" is the most appropriate if the term "illegal immigrants" is passe. Or are they fleeing "gang violence" when the gang in question is their own government looking to inflict righteous justice upon them?

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>anyone being targeted by facial recognition by definition has to be known to law enforcement already

Or they could use the self-checkout at Walmart, or walk through a Target, or buy a hammer at Home Depot. The government buys data from a wide variety of sources, without warrants or other oversight. Yours too.

https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/privacy/bipa...

https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/courtside/lawsuit-claims-...

https://www.homedepot.com/privacy/privacy-and-security-state...

From the Home Depot link:

"Biometric Information What Information Does This Include?

Facial recognition. Where Do We Collect It From?

    Via cameras at select stores, in parking lots, and at other facilities as permitted under applicable laws.

Why Do We Collect and Disclose It?

    Fraud prevention, security, and asset protection.

Who Do We Disclose It To?

    Service providers that process information on our behalf, such as security and fraud prevention services.
    Law enforcement, public and government authorities, and other entities as we deem reasonably necessary to comply with law, support investigations, and protect the rights and property of you, us, and others.
    Any successor to all or part of our business.
    Advisors and consultants.
    Our affiliates and subsidiaries."

What’s your assertion, that the government is using images of people in public or various stores to target anybody black, brown, or other non-white humans?

The man pictured stopped by ICE in the article is black. Are you claiming that facial recognition is being collected on all 50 million black American citizens and used to target people? How would this work differently than stopping random non-white people in the street and asking for legal status (I’m not claiming this doesn’t happen, I’m asking how it differs from your techno-fantasy scenario and why the resources would be investigated the way you claim it works).

Payment information and license plate scans are combined with biometric data to build profiles on every individual. It doesn't matter what shade your skin color is.

You still didn’t explain what this has to do with “ICE bounty hunters”, how this is used to specifically identify illegal immigrants, or why I should even care that illegal immigrants who broke the law by virtue of their presence here are being deported.

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