I'm not from the US so I have to ask,
Are ICE agents like police? In the sense that, can they detain someone they suspect of being a criminal, etc...?
Are ICE agents like police? In the sense that, can they detain someone they suspect of being a criminal, etc...?
> The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
However, our Supreme Court is out of control, and Justice Kavanaugh recently issued a ruling allowing racial profiling, meaning people can be detained for looking a certain way. These sorts of racially motivated detentions are now known as "Kavanaugh Stops": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kavanaugh_stop
So ICE agents don't have to suspect them of any crime; if they "look illegal", they can be detained and deported without due process.
ICE agents are police officers and have all the powers that police officers have. They're under federal jurisdiction rather than state, county, or city. The only limitations are what does or does not fall under their jurisdiction. For instance, they don't have the power to enforce traffic laws (because those aren't federal), but they can certainly arrest you for breaking federal laws or detain you while investigating them.
As I see those laws are not really knew, they were just not enforced during the previous administration as strictly, but people who broke those laws did it consciously.
Do people really care about the people who broke the laws or just hate the current administration so much?
Illegal presence is a civil violation. Civil violations are not crimes (in the sense the law is divided into civil and criminal law):
https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/criminal-defense/is-illeg...
Sneaking across the border is a crime. Overstaying your visa (70-80% of "illegal immigration") is not a crime. It is more analogous to a parking ticket in terms of severity.
The thing is - for a long time immigration was not enforced because the legals paths were blocked off to create a class of cheap labor to drive the American economy. It worked, and it source mostly jobs which citizens did not want to do. (Not entirely, and yes it did depress wages)
It is a complicated issue.
The Polish and eastern European community by me doesn't seem to be having any deportation issues, despite having a lot of illegal immigrants via visa overstay.
Being black and being accused of eating pets causes a great many problems.
In fact, they are propping up our economy. I had suspected you were posting in bad faith; now I know for sure. Our immigrant population - legal and not - solve more problems than they cause, and the numbers show that.
Thanks for putting the lie - explicitly, in your own words - to the idea this is about the law. You were fine with European illegal immigrants which cause similar amounts of issues (few) to Latinos. The difference is ethnicity. Full stop.
I don't really care one bit about their legal status- these folks are a part of my community and I don't want them to be kidnapped.
That is the whole thing.
If a persona can live here and have a house and a job, I don't think it's okay to kidnap them.
End of story.
> they were just not enforced during the previous administration as strictly
They were not enforced so cruelly, perhaps, but the Biden administration was not exactly lax about this stuff. They were deporting people in record numbers. They just weren't tossing aside things like basic human dignity, respect for the law, and due process when doing so.
And those who enter the country illegally: where is their respect for the law and where was their acceptance of due process in entering the country? They broke the laws while others did it the legal way.
When you break the law and you don't submit to the legal system you are a criminal.
Weird take when ICE are infamous for staking out courthouses and scooping up people working their way through applications and appeals.
Further, undocumented aliens in the US are guilty of civil infractions not criminal felonies .. these are a seperate issue altogether.
* https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/field_document/FINA...
* https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/debunk...
Perhaps consider getting a clue about this rather than repeating falsehoods.
"Entering the United States without being inspected and admitted, i.e., illegal entry, is a misdemeanor or can be a felony, depending on the circumstances. 8 U.S.C. § 1325."
Q.E.D.
They have limited police powers, particularly against actual citizens.
ICE sees its mission as encompassing both public safety and national security. However, its powers are different than the average local police department in the US.
Its agents have the power to stop, detain and arrest people they suspect of being in the US illegally. They can detain US citizens in limited circumstances, such as if a person interferes with an arrest, assaults an officer, or ICE suspect the person of being in the US illegally.
Despite this, according to news organisation ProPublica, there were more than 170 incidents during the first nine months of Trump's presidency in which federal agents held US citizens against their will.
Again, consider becoming better informed.
FWIW every police officer has "limited police powers" - the statement is vacuous. Federal police don't usually arrest for local law violations, local police don't usually arrest for federal law violations, etc.
So "limited police powers"? Well yes, they won't write a parking ticket, but they'll shoot your ass. I'd be wary of telling people that ICE agents have "limited police powers."
Using the left-leaning screed propublica as a reference is foolish.
From the Atlantic:
> New deportation officers at ICE used to receive about five months of federal-law-enforcement training. Administration officials have cut that time roughly in half, partly by eliminating Spanish-language courses. Academy training was shortened to 47 days, three officials told me, the number picked because Trump is the 47th president.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/08/ice-rec...