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Good for them. Makes me more likely to consider buying a Bose in future, not just because I know it won't be bricked, but also for the environmental impact of this. Kudos.

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If I'm understanding it right, any new speaker you can buy from them will still be dependent of some cloud service.

On that case, no, that wouldn't make me consider buying them. Because the one I can buy lacks exactly the feature that would make me consider it.

I am assuming that the GP was referring to buying these exact speakers second-hand, given how they spoke of the environmental impact.

If only their sound signature was a bit better... they went all in on engineering tricks to make things small and cheap to produce, but it shows in their sound quality. Their QC headphones are the best in noise cancellation, and the sound quality is good enough that they're my pair of wireless headphones.

A long while ago i heard something (that might have been a urban myth) about Bose putting useless weight into their headphones to make them appear more "substantially professional". Is that a myth or they have pivoted towards actual quality since early days?

There used to be a whole culture of bose kind of being a-holes. (Like 20 years ago.) I used to work at CNET back then and there was a kind of "yeah bose is ok" kind of vibe but it was always tinged with "but they want to sue you if you say mean things" whether they did or not.

As far as I know now, things have changed substantially. I would assume this includes engineering quality and honesty.

This bricking avoidance seems like another note in that positive direction.

Their aviation headsets are infamous for being heavy and the latest generation of the A30s haven't changed much except it's much lighter because they swapped out some metal parts for plastic.

That was Beats. Pre acquisition IIRC, it was years ago.

Can you give the source for that? The one posted shows the claim was debunked by the fact that they were not really Beats.

You are right, my memory only includes the original report and not the follow-up that determined it was bunk. Sadly it is too far past my post so I cannot edit it. Apologies for persisting bad info

You’re probably thinking of Beats. But even then, it turns out that the original story was wrong because they were knock-off Beats.

https://www.core77.com/posts/38311/Teardown-Reveals-Beats-He...

Those were Beats, not Bose, and it was true. IMO Bose does a great job of being both consumer friendly and high quality. There are others with higher fidelity for the same price (Shure, Sennheiser) but you often lose the comfort and portability Bose offers.

Can you give the source for that? The one posted shows the claim was debunked by the fact that they were not really Beats.

https://www.core77.com/posts/38311/Teardown-Reveals-Beats-He...

I believe that's always been a thing. A long time ago I read this teardown article [1] of real vs counterfeit Beats headphones. And even the counterfeit versions had metal weight added to make it feel like the real Beats headphones!

[1] https://blog.bolt.io/our-beats-were-counterfeit/

My understanding of modern Bose kit based on RTINGS reviews is that it's fairly competitive in its price range. Still a touch pricey for what you get, but not bad by any means—like 2nd/3rd best, and occasionally punching above its weight for their midrange offerings. They seem to be #1 for comfort (headphones) though.

I don't own any, I've just read reviews from when I was in the market for new headphones and earbuds.

Their headphones are remarkably comfortable

I have a pair of Bose QC35s and a set of AirPod Pros. More often than not, for a late night YouTube binge in bed, I’m reaching for the QC35s.

I know sound signature is a matter of personal taste, but FWIW, Bose QCs track the Harman curve pretty well.

E.g.: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/b...

Yep, their QCs are good enough and the rest of the package makes up for it. It's their speakers of which I am still not impressed.

no highs — no lows — just Bose

When I bought my Bose QC ten years ago, I tried a lot of brands and found Bose to have the most pleasant sound, very clear/neutral. I guess it’s personal taste.

I used to have an unexplained resistance to buy Bose products. After the hinge of my Sony mx-1000 headphones broke in to two places, I gave in and got a Bose qc. Man, the build quality was insanely good. The sound was really good. And it’s really comfortable to wear. I had changed my view.

This is going to read like I'm shilling but: I was so impressed with Bose QC headphones that i stocked up and gave out 7 pairs to my closest friends and family this year for christmas

Thee noise cancellation was unmatched several years ago. I picked up mine because we were spending hours in the data center. Suddenly we could work and take calls in that hell. I still have those, but the AirPods have taken their place on flights. It’s just less to bring with me.

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