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Comment by kaonwarb | Hacker News Reader

I appreciate the nod to whole milk, which has been repeatedly shown to be associated with _lower_ obesity in children. E.g. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31851302/, many other studies.

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This is for children and adolescents, which have different needs than the average adult. It's also just a meta analysis of literature with zero RCTs and a suggestive correlation. Unfortunately, these new guidelines don't seem even nearly detailed enough to cover these kinds of differences. The usual guidelines are well over 150 pages.

What other sources do you have besides that one observational study?

This is a meta-analysis of 28 studies. "Of 5862 reports identified by the search, 28 met the inclusion criteria: 20 were cross-sectional and 8 were prospective cohort."

No RCTs and it isn't clear that the studies were even focused on milk as a contributor to obesity, so they could be highly susceptible to confounders.

I appreciate the nod to whole milk because 'lite' milk is, well, Nick Offerman said it best as Ron from Parks and Recreation:

"There's only one thing I hate more than lying: Skim milk. Which is water that's lying about being milk"

You know that character is a joke, right?

Yeah, but that particular line rings true for me because I've used similar hyperbole when describing lite milk in comparison to real / whole milk.

If you can't tell the difference, then it's been a long time since you've had whole milk.

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