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The EU also has technologies the US is completely dependent on, advanced industries need European tech to function.

The tech stuff from the US is much easier to replace than the US developing litography machines on the level of ASML.

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Is there any reason to believe the US wouldn't use force to address this?

Yes. There's been no invasion of Canada, which is actively waging retaliatory economic war on the US.

It seems naive to assume Canada isn't on Trump's shopping list given he has said the exact opposite in the past, though I'm also not sure I understand what you mean/what that had to do with my comment.

It's naive to think there isn't already a 5th column at work.

This guy:

https://provincialtimes.ca/questions-mount-over-jamil-jivani...

Is best buds with the VP:

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trum...

Premiers are also being courted:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-danielle-smit...

And there's some sketchy things going on in her province:

https://www.desmog.com/2025/07/22/trump-officials-discussed-...

Honestly feels like we're asleep at the wheel as a country..

Yeah, our Premier is doing her best to be as lobbyist as she can, if it ain't American oil n gas she doesn't care.

I'm stupid, so I still haven't figured out how both of these petitions were approved, other than she really wants a referendum on separation.

https://www.thealbertan.com/innisfail-news/forever-canadian-...

https://lethbridgenewsnow.com/2026/01/02/citizen-petition-on...

What do you think a sucker punch is?

I'm not the one you're asking, but how do you mean?

This scenario is that the EU and the US would be at war with one another, so each would of course use military means to deal with its deficiencies.

You can imagine anything from the US trying to steal any valuable materials or information related to lithography that it can, to actively destroying what it can't usefully steal, right? It's not like both sides would just sit there and declare foreign strategically-important companies off-limits.

Yes, of course. Both would presumably proceed in that way. Microchip factories etc. are very reasonable targets in a war.

This whole thread is about the case where the US goes to war with the EU (taking Greenland is war, no matter how the Trump admin tries to spin it).

That's exactly what I'm talking about too. Some combination of intelligence/military operations would almost certainly target companies like ASML during war, no? Why would you assume its assets would stay intact and remain on the Europe side?

Would ASML be able to produce these machines without parts from the US? My guess is no, because they represent the culmination of decades of research across the entire developed world.

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