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> not supported by the vast majority of the country

Votes suggest otherwise.

We both know this is an imperfect statement without getting into a lecture about representative democracy or voting modalities.

Americans have been all for this the last couple of rounds as well.

Trump won the electoral vote [edit: and the popular vote]

That’s the one that governs, but in 2024 he also won the popular vote.

I guess we'll forever wonder how much of the lack of turnout was due to backing the wrong party outside a swing state.

This is muddying with jargon. You're insisting on nuance where there is none: Trump won emphatically, and the campaign couldn't have been clearer about what MAGA intended to do in power.

As I recall, Trump specifically campaign on the promise of no more wars.

Nope, I will not get myself dragged into this mud, except maybe to say that by the numbers, "not voting" won.

The combined margin in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania (which could combine to flip the election) was about 250,000 votes. That's not all that emphatic.

The polls[0] on the war do not necessarily fall along party lines

[0]: https://usapolling.substack.com/p/america-marches-into-anoth...

> 60% of Americans oppose sending US troops into Venezuela to remove Maduro from power. Support is heavily concentrated among Republicans, with 58% in favor, compared to just 21% of independents and 14% of Democrats.

But they do.

So there we see that the vast majority of the country opposes this war.

60% is far from vast and the party in power is all for it.

60% represents a considerably greater margin than any presidential election in recent memory

Now that Trump has reported that Maduro was removed from power, it will be interesting to run this poll again and see the support given the success of the operation.

He promised his voters no new wars. So your statement is completely wrong.

He asked why he can't use nukes in 2016. Trump is pro raw power, pro war, always was, always will be. "We didn't vote for this" - all Germans 1945. SPOILER ALERT: They did, it was all in "Mein Kampf".

I hate it when everyone says "Nazi Germany" instead of just "Germany".

Perhaps it is just a Special Military Operation?

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