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We won't know for a while but I don't imagine there will be mass civilian graves, abducted children, or the intent to annex the country. This is probably more about oil and deposing Maduro.

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"This is more about oil and deposing Maduro." Scary how overt these 'operations' are these days. 50 years ago governments would try hide stuff like this. Someone said 'lack of shame' is very concerning with governments of today. Wonder if this is a reflection of where we as a humanity are heading.

> 50 years ago governments would try hide stuff like this

The Cold War was openly about changing governments.

> This is probably more about oil and deposing Maduro.

Correct.

"This isn't about conquering Ukraine, it's about coal and removing Nazi Żeleński from power"

Putin has always been very clear about conquering Ukraine and eliminating anything Ukrainian, including its statehood. Tons of public writing, won't shut up about his fake history of the region, etc. Putin is as clear about his intentions as Hitler was about his intentions.

Could you point to some sources please? Every time I see Putin talk on Ukraine, he clearly expresses the very opposite, so I'd like to see where he's said otherwise.

I can't honestly claim to have paid attention to the whole interview and followed all of his rambling, but he seemed to express in the Tucker interview that he views Ukraine as traditional/rightful Russian territory. Tucker was trying to lead Putin into the claim that the invasion was prompted by NATO doing NATO things (which is the talking point favored by right-aligned American commenters, who want to somehow blame Obama/Biden foreign policy for the war), but Putin just wanted to talk about shit that happened centuries ago.

Yeah that interview was accidentally pretty interesting and also boing af.

en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181

A lot of reading there, thanks!

I wasn't paraphrasing Trump but rather speculating about his actual intentions.

I know, not disagreeing with you on that. I felt though it's important to add that too though.

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