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Perhaps the problem lies in the Anglo-American "Democracy" as a system of rule itself ?

I mean for the most part, democracy is a joke today. Most people have no say in how they get "governed" by increasingly haughty and disconnected elites. It's all but a farce today - worse, there's no central King whose greed for wealth can be satisfied once.

Voting is just a means for legal legitimacy - nothing more. Until the systems become radically decentralized (ergo, ruling out every political theory in existence), this "liberal" trick of atomizing the public, while the elites centralize globally, will continue.

There's a endless musical chair of parasites who come in to get their fill, and then leave - so 'people' don't even have one guy they can kill off to start anew.

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> there's no central King whose greed for wealth can be satisfied once.

King and court and lords are the same amount of greedy bastards. The issue with kings is on another plain, what to do with power transfer to a new king. Democracy try to solve exactly this problem. What to do with individuals bending laws to be new kings is another issue to solve.

> Perhaps the problem lies in the Anglo-American "Democracy" as a system of rule itself

Your description of the problems is accurate and the solution hinges on the “Anglo-American” descriptor. Western style democracies don’t work with you get non westerners (or those that don’t see themselves as European) involved. Kevin MacDonald’s books describe how our western cultural systems are uniquely vulnerable to coordinated (ethnic) groups. He’s an actually banned author, but I’d recommend his books if you’re interested in an accurate breakdown of the problem (and please don’t decry them without reading them).

So, the problem isn’t necessarily democracy, it’s that certain groups make democracy impossible. Just like dev teams - with high trust members, you can get some impressive stuff done. But add in a few deliberate bad actors and it all falls apart.

You summarized the "democracy the god that failed" book.

The issue is we look upon the government for solutions. In reality, the answer always lies in us.

What people don't get about 'Anglo-American' democracy is that the various political governmental bodies ARE NOT the governing mechanism of society

If you're not president of some local board or organization, then YOU are the problem. America is a nation of presidents. Until we each do that, the country will always be missing something. Outside observers clearly noted this early on in this country's history. People completely misplace their trust today depending on the government.

This is why transplanting American legal systems to foreign cultures doesn't work. The work to be done is not governmental but rather interior to each individual in society

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