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having fun isn't tied to employment unless you are self-employed even then what's fun should not be the driving force

"get a job doing something you enjoy and you'll never work a day in your life"

or something like that

Why? It is a matter of values. Fun can be a driving force just like money and stability is. It is simply a matter of your values (and your sacrifices).

Like I said, I am just a generic replaceable dime a dozen programmer dude.

you dont get paid to have fun but to produce as a laborer

a job isn't supposed to be fun its nice when it is but it shouldn't be what drives decisions

You mean it shouldn't be the driving force of your employer to make decision. Yes I agree 10000%

I meant it can be your (not necessarily your employer) driving decision in life.

Of course, you need to suffer. That's about having tradeoffs.

almost all employers are going to expect you to use AI and produce more with it

you can definitely choose not to participate and give the opportunity someone who are happy to use AI and still have fun with it.

most organizations have awful leadership, sure

but that doesn't mean you can't (or shouldn't) work around it

have you tried telling your boss you won't use the AI anymore while the rest of the team uses it ?

how do you imagine such conversation to play out im curious

what I've done is avoid the sort of boss who would mandate AI use

in a past job I did tell a boss that I wasn't going to be doing the whole tickets/estimates/schedule tetris thing, and that actually worked out... because the leaders I worked with understood the value of being flexible and trusting their lead engineers

Indeed, please find others to do it, not me.

i think you angered the hustle bros

were these bots? so strange all green nicks

nah just privileged dudes who think the whole world gets to pick and choose how to earn a living

That sounds miserable to me :(

you work on somebody's dime, its no longer your choice

It's my life, it's my choice.

it's your choice whose dime you work on. they can compete for your work by making it fun for you.

sure unemployment is also a choice

fun work > tedious work > unemployment

not sure why so many people feel like factoring fun into what job you want to take is so unthinkable, or that it's just a false dichotomy between the ideal job and unemployment

you are describing the ideal which is not a reality for many many people as it is not common

it's a trade-off; you need a job but you typically interview at several places, collect offers, and weigh them according to various criteria. all the pro-fun posters are saying is that "enjoy the job" is a very highly ranked criterion for us.

this is known as privilege

it's definitely a privilege to be able to find a fun job! but note that I'm not saying that everyone should hold out until they find one, I'm pushing back against the dour people who are convinced in their heart of hearts that "it's a job, it's not supposed to be fun" and that you are being an idiot for thinking it's even possible to find a job you really enjoy.

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