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I don’t understand why anyone thinks we have a choice on AI. If America doesn’t win, other countries will. We don’t live in a Utopia, and getting the entire world to behave a certain way is impossible (see covid). Yes, AI videos and spam is annoying, but the cat is out of the bag. Use AI where it’s useful and get with the programme.

The bigger issue everyone should be focusing on is growing hypocrisy and overly puritan viewpoints thinking they are holier and righter than anyone else. That’s the real plague

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> I don’t understand why anyone thinks we have a choice on AI.

Of course we do. We don't live inside some game theoretic fever dream.

What is your big idea and how will it slow countries like China?

> If America doesn’t win, other countries will

if anything the Chinese approach looks more responsible that that of the current US regime

What exactly do we stand to "win" with generative AI?

Isn't it obvious? Near future vision-language-action models have obvious military potential (see what the Figure company is doing, now imagine it in a combat robot variant). Any superpower that fails to develop combat robots with such AI will not be a superpower for very long. China will develop them soon. If the US does not, the US is a dead superpower walking. EU is unfortunately still sleeping. Well, perhaps France with Mistral has a chance.

Better thank you emails I think. Think how good they'll be on a 10 year timespan

So far the 2 answers you've received are killing people and sending emails.

I don't think either of those are particularly valuable to the society I'd like to see us build.

We're already incredibly dialed in and efficient at killing people. I don't think society at large reaps the benefits if we get even better at it.

First mover advantage for important AI tools that deliver enormous value to humanity.

Win what, and for whom?

First to total surveillance state? Because that is a major driving force in China: to get automated control of its own population.

Genie has been out of the bottle for AI in facial recognition and military systems for a while now, let alone language models

Any empire that falls back in the give me more money race will not be empire for long.

Give me more money now.

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