Comment by ulfw | Hacker News Reader

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We can see the same with everything in the US.

Huawei became very competitive to Apple. Outsold Apple in it's home market. Huawei got banned.

DJI has a near monopoly on drones. No US company could compete and players like GoPro shut down their consumer drone projects. DJI got/is about to get banned.

Tiktok was dangerous to Meta. TikTok got almost banned/forced-sold.

Chinese EVs are better than almost any US offering. Chinese EVs got banned (by 100%+ tarrifs on them).

Sale of AI and Chips to China got banned. No ChatGPT or Claude offered to us here in Hong Kong.

This is all the US Tech sector can do now. Short term this will go very well but long term this leads to the US falling behind and behind because American companies have artificially created barriers where they aren't forced to comepete anymore, meanwhile the world moves on and has a competitive environment. Innovation will move faster Ex-USA

I fly a DJI Mini 5 Pro, use a Huawei Freeclip 2 earphone, a Huawei GT6 watch, a Xiaomi Silicon Carbon powerbank, an Oppo Find N5 foldable. Most are better/unique compared to what you can even get in America. And that's only the beginning. That's only 2025.

> Huawei became very competitive to Apple. Huawei got banned.

How would you explain Samsung, LG, Sony, etc.?

> DJI got banned.

Untrue.

Supply is constrained and future of new product availability is uncertain because of FY2025 National Defesnse Authorization ACt, which requires a security audit by late Dec 2025. If that doesn't happen, DJI could automatically be added to the FCC's restricted list, which could block new products from being certified and sold in the US.

In the meantime, for sale at Best Buy, Adorama, B&H, Walmart, etc. e.g. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1737927-REG/dji_cp_ma...

> Sale of AI and Chips to China got banned.

Your argument is that US tech companies do not have the ability to compete, but this example doesn't support your claim; in fact it does the opposite.

But even so, your information is out of date. Nvidia is now allowed to sell its advanced H200 AI chips to China. The whiplash is dumb, but the move is aimed at maintaining US AI leadership, support American jobs, while addressing concerns about China's military AI development.

As a former Huawei phone owner, and a present Honor phone owner, Samsung LG and Sony does not hold a candle to the quality on offer from Honor and Huawei.

And this is coming from someone who has owned multiple Samsungs over the years.

Huawei embeds ads in the stock apps. How can you have ads in a file manager app?

My default has always been replace the stock apps with the ones I'm most familiar with, so I never noticed the ads tbh.

and DJI is now effectively banned. Oh sorry... only 'new models'...

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/3337398/us-bars-appr...

I agree generally that protectionism is bad, but the examples you present are just the US (finally!) doing to China what China has done to the world for decades. They rely on relatively unencumbered trade in Western markets, while locking their own markets up from outside competition.

And yet you can buy a Tesla in China or an iPhone or any luxury bag or or or. Plenty of brands. It's not quite as black and white as people think.

What you're talking about is social networks/messengers/news which are limited not so much for competitive reasons but national security reasons. They like to control what people see which is something a Google, Meta or X cannot guarantee.

You can very much buy US software, e.g. https://www.microsoft.com/zh-cn/microsoft-365/buy/microsoft-... etc.

You can buy a Prada bag, a Ralph Lauren sweater, the newest iPhone or Mac, a Model Y, adidas or Nikes, Adobe Photoshop... etc etc

> DJI got banned

Not sure how that statement squares against the fact that a lot of major US stores (Amazon, Target, Costco, Walmart, B&H Photo, Microcenter, etc.) have DJI products available for purchase, as well as that there is literally a physical retail DJI store[0] within a ~20min subway ride away from my apartment in the US.

0. https://maps.app.goo.gl/yAUyv6LcmKMbsSyX6

I was too early with my 'got banned' statement. Is 'about to get' banned would be correct.

https://www.theverge.com/news/831241/dji-ban-us-trump-fcc-cu...

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