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Be careful with these older boards. Some might be PCIe 3.0 making your GPU and NVMe dog slow.

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PCIe 3.0 x16 is enough for up to a ~5080, you only lose single digit percent fps.

Definetly not dog slow as long as your gpu is x16.

Doesn't matter for gaming at least.

NVIDIA models 4060/5050/5060 have only 8 PCIe lanes. Combine that with PCIe 3.0 and it becomes a problem.

is PCIe 4 fine?

X8 3.0 vs x8 4.0 and x8 5.0 benchmark comparisons.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5060-t...

I'll let others judge for themselves, personally I'd be tempted to get an x16 GPU since the 5800X3D is actually very near top of the line and the GPU should match the CPU imho but in general even the worst case of x8 GPU on a PCIE 3.0 motherboard doesn't seem to be the end of the world

I stand corrected, at least for gaming. I got burned in the past by 3.0 but it was for data processing.

Not a problem for MWLL - it's still the Crysis engine anyway.

But seriously, claiming "dog slow" is certainly an overstatement. You lose some of the top performance, not below - and it's still ~4/16GB/s

Mechwarrior Living Legends my belowed.

Even like 2016 vintage boards were PCIe 4.0 so I don’t think this is a huge issue?

The article mentions AM4 boards and many of those are PCIe 3.0.

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/ilz8v6/which_am4_...

  Chipset  PCIe Version Supported
  X570   PCIe 4.0 (both GPU/NVMe)
  B550   PCIe 4.0 (GPU/NVMe; other lanes are PCIe 3.0)
  A520   PCIe 3.0
  X470   PCIe 3.0
  B450   PCIe 3.0
  X370   PCIe 3.0
  B350   PCIe 3.0
  A320   PCIe 3.0

Considering the final PCIe 4.0 spec was released in June 2017 that seems improbable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express

AMD didn't even support PCIe 4.0 until 2019 with Zen 2, Intel in 2020 with tiger lake.

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