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This Mozilla fiasco has convinced me that being a nonprofit isn't enough. We need a web browser that is actively hostile towards corporations and surveillance capitalism.

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Why hasn't the anti-corporate fiasco (not a single successful example) convinced you that it's not enough?

Corporations, private equity, the ever encroaching monopolies and centralization of economic power, the steady march towards authoritarianism... all of these things are connected and are making our lives shittier. We should oppose them.

> This Mozilla fiasco has convinced me that being a nonprofit isn't enough

I'm not sure to what extent Mozilla actually functions as a nonprofit. All the bits one cares about (i.e. FireFox) are developed by the for-profit subsidiary, which is at least somewhat beholden to Google/Microsoft for revenue...

Starting with a strong copyleft license helps a lot. See Blender being GPL.

How so? Corporate and surveillance capitalism's infrastructure is built on copyleft software. The equivocation of license dogmatism with social good and sustainability that those movements were never actually aligned with is part of what's left socially minded technologies and communities so vulnerable to the predation that led the web to this current mess.

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> hostile towards corporations and surveillance capitalism

... they said. Not against users.

"oh look, my browser doesn't work with Facebook, any Google sites and most of the web"

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