Nah. That place is well deserved by Russia. But they have missile - plane collisions :)
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/july-3/u-s-warsh...
Mistakes aren't good, but pretending that you didn't make them adds insult to injury.
It's sort of funny that this thread turned into a USA vs Russia debate when they both play the same games. One of them is just slightly better at pretending like they're playing fair and friendly. My take-away from that is once an organized body, be it a country, corporation or religion, gets very large and holds a lot of power, they will inevitably start doing bad things.
Doesn't sound to me like owning your mistake.
Isn't the famous quote:
'I'll never apologize for the United States of America, I don't care what the facts are'.
in the context of that after all?
I don't know about accidental, but if anyone thinks Russia is not ballsy about butchering civilians, they need a refresher on Russia's wars during the last few decades. Last few years would be enough too. It's a principle of their military affairs.
Not sure if you're being subtly apologetic, so I'll elaborate my point. Russian commanders that led campaigns in Syria got nicknames like Butcher of Aleppo and General Armageddon, for not only using scorched earth tactics, indiscriminate bombing, but actually systemically bombing schools, hospitals, field clinics, bread lines. UN High Commissioner for Human Rights called it "crimes of historic proportions." Aid organizations would actually stonewall the UN, because through UN Russia would find out where the bread lines are and would bomb them. These are not accidents, or freak, isolated occurances: it's doctrine. Look at Mariupol. Or, Ukraine in general.
These are all accidents too I assume ? Idk what to expect from people who are currently blowing up random boats in international waters and who just declared fentanyl a weapon of mass destruction lmao
Unless you have tangible evidence that MH17 was deliberately downed. In which case I am sure people would just love to see that.
Maybe you should think twice before dropping offhand comments related to mass killings. If you want to talk about what exactly I said that's "politics" as opposed to history, we can do that.