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also, when I'm in my local store it seems like cell connection goes to shit for some reason and then I have to jump on their in store wifi in order to search their website

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> when I'm in my local store it seems like cell connection goes to shit for some reason

It's a giant steel and concrete box, that's probably the reason.

They probably don't have any repeaters. All those metal shelves are going to interfere with the signal. I have the same experience.

Their in-store WiFi is a repeater more or less. It's one of those bullshit forced auto-join networks that you can't opt out of (at least on iOS). Because that's not a massive vector for phishing or anything.

This is a network carrier setting, the issue is that T-Mobile (and maybe others) pushes a profile that does this as part of their network configuration.

Right, so you can't opt-out of it.

I went to Wi-Fi settings, "Edit" in top right, scroll to bottom "Managed" section, and was able to turn off "Auto-Join" for the "t-mobile" managed network just fine. I did this many months ago, I think because I was infuriated at the idea of auto-connecting to a Wi-Fi network I did not opt in to, but regardless, the checkbox has remained off through a few OS updates since (on 26.1 now with a T-Mo prepaid eSIM).

There's no "Managed" section showing up on my phone and the last time I set that network to not auto-join it still did. Lesson learned, I just turn off WiFi and Bluetooth before heading out to Home Depot.

Yes, although I've had terrible experience with their wifi. I'm sure it depends on the store, but coverage is usually terrible and highly spotty, so if you're walking around or standing in the wrong area, it stops working.

At one point I also had to disable wireguard because I think it was triggering some sort of anti-abuse thing they had. It wasn't even using an exit node, just bridging me to my home network so I could access self-hosted services. I get the desire for anti-abuse, but that felt pretty draconian and I don't expect the average person to consider they might have to disable a VPN to get it to work, especially nowadays when many average people do have VPNs running.

I was livid when I discovered that my carrier had implemented that with no opt out. I worked around it by implementing shortcuts that disable my iPhone's WiFi when I leave my house until I've returned or reached one of the handful of other places I use it. It's ridiculous that something like that is necessary, though.

Always wondered if this was a deliberate strategy to enable more tracking… but it sounds way beyond the ability of their corporate planning.

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