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They define unvaccinated as anyone in the study who didn't get their first dose by Nov 2021. That feels like a pretty tight window to me. I don't think they checked to see if those "unvaccinated" people got vaccinated during the 4 year followup, especially given the mandates that forced people to get them.

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That's a year into its availability in France. Anyone who didn't have their first dose by then probably wasn't getting a dose.

You can see that in this chart (click the 5Y range): https://ycharts.com/indicators/france_coronavirus_full_vacci...

It's the full vaccination rate; as of Dec 1 2021 it was 69.89%. A month later (i.e. those Nov folks are getting their second dose) it's 74%; latest number on the chart is 78.44%.

> That's a year into its availability in France. Anyone who didn't have their first dose by then probably wasn't getting a dose.

You are aware of the "incentives" offered by the French govt?

Such wonderful options as the ability to go the shops without being arrested that came with, "take the mandated medicine".

That's entirely irrelevant to "what date do we pick as the cutoff for this research?"

From the chart, they picked a very reasonable spot to draw said line.

How would they calculate 4 year all-cause mortality on people who got vaccinated after Nov 2021? In case you haven't looked at a calendar recently, it's December 2025 now.

They excluded initial doses before May 2021, as well; in case you look at a calendar - that fits the criteria. Something doesn't square.

My memory is failing me right now. When did they start vaccinating en masse?

I got it December 2020

Maybe you were a special group? I know some government workers who interacted with the public regularly got it early. Most people I know started getting it around March or April 2021.

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