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I've been seeing a few links to Strudel recently so I went digging to see how old the project is - looks like it launched in April 2022 https://loophole-letters.vercel.app/strudel

It came out of the same team as Tidal Cycles, a Haskell live-coding music tool which was first released around 2009. https://tidalcycles.org/docs/around_tidal/tidal_history/

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The toplap wiki has some more history about the community too: https://toplap.org/wiki/HistoricalPerformances

Edit: oh right! Also the toplap documentary from 2005 has some actual video of early live coding performances from this community. https://archive.org/details/toplap-documentary

IIRC, that team are also (now) live-music-coding veterans, which in turn has informed how Strudel is built. It's not just a project that does stuff, it's a pretty well crafted instrument that is ideal for these performances.

As an engineer, I love letting the requirements shape the solution, but this is just on a whole other level.

Such a good example of why everything is becoming js. Because it's where the users are. Anything that isn't in js will just languish comparatively.

Everything is becoming js because everything is becoming js.

Have you taken a look at how to install the Haskell variant? It's a full-on recipe, or a docker container. I'd take a desktop application over a website any day, but that was not on the menu. It was an SPA vs a devops exercise. Of course the SPA wins.

Yes. The web wins on deployment every time.

Steam wins for games imho.

Tidal Cycles is hardly languishing. Not everything needs a billion users and VC funding.

... And js is everywhere

"...because everything runs js*"

Javascript runs on ~70% of all devices worldwide.

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