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I was replying to this in the parent comment:

> supplying him with drugs

They are blaming this woman for Anthony's drug use and I am just pointing out that he has always been an addict.

She was clearly enabling him and playing him, that’s predatory. A similar thing happened between Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love. The friendship between Heath Ledger and Mary-Kate Olsen was very suspicious too.

Any further misogynist finger pointing?

That's a morbid and sexist thing to say.

'Ditto' ("you-the-sexist") is hardly a counter-argument.

No, it’s sexist to read about men being abused by manipulative women and assume misogyny. It stinks of a bias that favors women so intensely that it treats dead men as simply some kind of social breakage. That’s sad.

From what I understand he wasn’t actively doing hard drugs, but had earlier in his life. Maybe that’s not correct. I’m not sure. But if he was addicted and she or anyone else was further encouraging or indulging his addiction, well, that’s abusive by any definition I hold.

I’m not sure about his personal relationships, and don’t care much besides leaving an internet comment, but why are you so quick to dismiss that he may have experienced being manipulated or taken advantage of?

Why does she have responsibility and he does not?

Nobody is saying that

Several people are saying that.

Because he wasn't a boy. He was an adult man.

I see. Is there a class you take when graduating from boy to man that makes you impervious to manipulation? I must have missed the email telling me when class was being held. All I got was this Ted talk https://youtu.be/v4TVV6_2K2M

Yes, it's called "Being an adult and taking responsibility for your choices 101".

Even the legal system understands this, which is why you get harsher penalties for the same crimes as an adult.

I'm looking at the syllabus for that class, but I'm not seeing the part where you become immune to manipulation. Responsible for your actions is covered in week two, but I'm really not seeing the manipulation armor section of the course. Could you help me please?

Sure, look in the course notes for week three: "being manipulated doesn't absolve you of responsibility either".

"I was manipulated" isn't some magic wand to throw around and absolve an adult of responsibility.

Even less so when the manipulation doesn't involve some elaborate con scheme, but simply the allure of a sexy younger woman, not to mention being blatantly explicit about it, about the fact they just want a casual relationship with you, and even ask you to stop being obsessed with them.

Isn't she an adult woman? I don't understand your line of reasoning here. Because someone is a man they can't be manipulated or taken advantage of? Is that what you're suggesting?

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