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I believe in a very practical definition of AGI. AGI is a system capable of RSI. Why? Because it mimics humans. We have some behaviours that are given to us from birth, but the real power of humans is our ability to learn and improve ourselves and the environment around us.

A system capable of self improvement will be sufficient for AGI imo.

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Ah - recursive self improvement. I was thinking repetitive strain injury was odd. But that's probably quite a good test although LLMs may be able to improve a bit but still not be very good. An interesting point for me is if all humans went away could the AI/robots keep on without us which would require them to be able to maintain and build power plants, chip fabs and the like. A way to go on that one.

Self improvement doesn’t mean self improvement in any possible direction without any tradeoffs. Genetic algorithms can do everything an LLM can given enough computational resources and training, but being wildly inefficient humanity can’t actually use them to make a chatbot on any even vaguely relevant timeline.

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