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Agreed. Came here to point out that the lack of professionalism and common courtesy here is reminiscent of the dark entitled days of open source in the late 90s that had attitude of "We build free software so we can tell you to go fuck yourself.". Hope we're not headed back there.

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I’ll take that vs no open source software contributors.

Elitism is far from the worst character trait unpaid code janitors can be expected to have.

I have a lot of understanding for such personalities too, I'm probably quite like this myself although I try my hardest to not open my mouth like this. For example I got blocked by Jonathan Blow over a simple question on twitter but I don't think too badly of him now, it's just a miscalculation on his part or him trying to optimize his life as a passionate person. But you really need to make sure to be right when you are putting other people down. I mean REALLY right, you need to tripple check that what you are doing is going to help an honest person to improve themselves. So my opinion is: You can be super critical but you have to be right.

I'm not going to touch the political parts. But my main point is that the migration itself is obviously not well done, he isn't even migrating issues nor migrating perks for sponsors, splitting the community and attention apart. You could even say that he's critical of people who keep using github sponsors. In my view the text is implying that you are hurting ziglang if you keep using this thing that is a liability for ziglang... oh the horror of giving someone money in a way he doesn't like. People like this forget that contributors are doing free work for them too, it's not just one way. Everything that creates friction for them is real work you just caused them.

> I got blocked by Jonathan Blow

You're probably better off for it to be honest.

> But you really need to make sure to be right when you are putting other people down. I mean REALLY right, you need to tripple check that what you are doing is going to help an honest person to improve themselves.

But it then loses the emotional momentum and stops being colorful!

not the dichotomy we're actually talking about here...

What is?

The question under discussion is 'open source developers posting childish rants vs not posting them'

Not

'open source developers posting childish rants vs no open source developers'

If they wanted to walk without that freedom,

they’d be hacking on shit over at Mozilla (or similar - likely for more money) right?

I have no idea what you're talking about

I’m not too sure how to help with that.

Read more about contributing to open source, who contributes, under what circumstances.

For example: are you familiar with Linus Torvalds?

As opposed to the modern era of megacorps benefitting from the free labor of OS maintainers? I will not deny that corporate contributions to open source projects are significant, but there are definitely some very visible examples of projects being taken advantage of by companies that want to use free software without giving back.

“We build free software so we can tell you to go fuck yourself.”

Sounds like a great thing compared to the sanitized corpo bullshit from nowadays. Microsoft bought themselves into OSS with github and each project has a bland CoC.

It’s pathetic. Even the github monkeys know deep down that this is wrong.

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