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Maybe they are just really tired of having to deal with people who constantly object and throw every possible obstacle they can on the way.

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Maybe they wouldn't experience so much pushback if they were more humble, had more respect for established software and practices, and were more open to discussion.

You can't go around screaming "your code SUCKS and you need to rewrite it my way NOW" at everyone all the time and expect people to not react negatively.

The endless crusades are indeed tiresome.

Yes, the immediate and endless backlash we get whenever anybody says the word "Rust" is quite tiresome.

Ah yes, the signature snark from the Rust community. This is the type of thing that repels people.

Most of the repelling is happening on the anti-Rust side. The hate and vitriol has chased away Wedson Almeida Filho, Alex Gaynor, Hector Martin and Christoph Hellwig from the Rust in Linux project.

And it's happening here too. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46048336 makes clear that most of the commentary here is just plain wrong, yet it's not upvoted to top.

And for each of those names there are 100 rust zealots tainting their legacy with their behavior.

That’s also not something anybody has actually said.

Are you serious? It's basically impossible to discuss C/C++ anymore without someone bringing up Rust.

If you search for HN posts with C++ in the title from the last year, the top post is about how C++ sucks and Rust is better. The fourth result is a post titled "C++ is an absolute blast" and the comments contain 128 (one hundred and twenty eight) mentions of the word "Rust". It's ridiculous.

Lots of current and former C++ developers are excited about Rust, so it’s natural that it comes up in similar conversations. But bringing up Rust in any conversation still does not amount to a personal attack, and I would encourage some reflection here if that is your first reaction.

While no one has explicitly said that, it is the implied justification of rewriting so much stuff in rust

I disagree very strongly that a suggestion to change something is also a personal attack on the author of the original code. That’s not a professional or constructive attitude.

To be clear, the "you" and "my" in your sentence refer to the same person. Julian appears to be the APT maintainer, so there's no compulsion except what he applies to himself.

(Maybe you mean this in some general sense, but the actual situation at hand doesn't remotely resemble a hostile unaffiliated demand against a project.)

> Julian appears to be the APT maintainer, so there's no compulsion except what he applies to himself.

To who is this addressed?

> If you maintain a port without a working Rust toolchain, please ensure it has one within the next 6 months, or sunset the port.

Because that sure reads as a compulsion to me.

> You can't go around screaming "your code SUCKS and you need to rewrite it my way NOW"

It seems you are imagining things and hate people for the things you imagined.

In reality there are situations where during technical discussions some people stand up and with trembling voice start derailing these technical discussions with "arguments" like "you are trying to convince everyone to switch over to the religion". https://youtu.be/WiPp9YEBV0Q?t=1529

No, honestly Rust has just really crappy attitude and culture. Even as a person who should naturally like Rust and I do plan to learn it despite that I find these people really grating.

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