Mount Proton Drive on Linux using rclone and systemd
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I saw the writing on the wall and migrated rapidly earlier this year ahead of crypto product launches ahead of the email fiasco. It was hard to get data back out, even then.
Proton still stands for privacy. But the dark patterns for lock-in I can do without.
Hetzner Storage boxes with rclone and the “crypt” option are a drop-in replacement, at ~$40 for 20TB. That’s where I went instead.
There is many free software suites that Hetzner Storage box supports, up to and including official support for rclone (the free tool used in the post we’re replying to).
Hetzner works because it was built a long time ago when talent was cheap, which it was because the property Ponzi wasn't at the stage where an average post-tax middle-class salary barely covers rent. Since then they've managed to stay afloat because it's only maintenance and small incremental changes from that point on.
Building such a new operation (and offering competitive prices) from scratch today would be impossible based on labor costs alone. This is presumably the same reason they don't offer their very-good-value dedicated servers in the US either, only "cloud" VPSes which are orders of magnitude more expensive.
The cost of hands and housing for hands, yea thats marginal in this.
By your logic AWS should also be cheap since it was also built under similar timing.
Hetzner is cheap because they don’t provide the same level of abstractions. They also have competitors in the same price range. They aren’t wildly unique.
Dropbox API refuses to sync certain 'sensitive' files like game backups (ROMs or ISOs). There is no way for Dropbox to know if you own the game and thus can own a backup, they just play file police.
Effectively there was a proposed Swiss Law that would force Protonmail to cooperate in sharing customer data with authorities if requested.
The law hasn't passed, and it was even deemed illegal by the EU.
It did raise an interesting issue though, as Protomail was strictly in Switzerland, they realised that they were at the whim of their lawmakers (which was kinda the point in the first place as Switzerland has great privacy laws). However, if those laws did become adversarial, it would greatly affect Protonmail users. This is why they started diversifying some services outside of Switzerland, in case something like this ever did come to pass.
They lost thousands of emails and they treated every customer individually while blocking people from complaining on their subreddit.
Then, it was posted here on HN and they finally decided to stand up and fix their reputation by saying they care and want to do better, after months of silencing the issue as much as possible.
You are complaining about them "losing thousands of emails" when that is clearly not the case. The issue was with their IMAP bridge, meaning the emails in question would have been lost on a local host, not on Protonmail, and the 'lost emails' were fully recoverable just by logging into the web interface.
You are, once again, confidently incorrect.
Anyway, for anyone actually looking for good cloud drive hosting, without any BS: rsync.net (you encrypt on your side before sending anything. I use Vorta with them).
Also the same server can be used by multiple (trursted) users, like family members etc.
Hopefully proton will hurry up with their SDK. Through the rclone GUI I can access and mount the folders and files but I cannot get any auto rclone commands to actually transfer any files.
You can connect to a 2-bay NAS with 20 TB of storage at home with a VPN. Fast, private, secure, practically unlimited storage, under your control. That much storage will be very expensive in the cloud. Proton is like 120$/year for 500GB.
You can also run unlimited applications for free on the same nas: photo management, streaming with apps like plex etc. Each of those apps is an additional cost in the cloud.
It's also great if you move frequently, or travel a lot.
You would encrypt (all or part of) your NAS client side with your software of choice (I use restic) and ship it anywhere off site: could be cheapest cloud, or another location you have access to.
If you love spending hours a day twiddling with linux configs, knock yourself out, but my time is worth more and the every arrow of opportunity cost points toward an integrated cloud ecosystem.
I prefer to save data in the cloud, and not "on the computer... in my house..." as the hank hill meme goes, because that hardware is painfully fragile.
Setting up a second off-site NAS and connecting it to the primary one over VPN was also easy.
I haven't twiddled with Linux configs since I set up the system in 2018.
You configure an offsite backup in the NAS.
Obviously you don’t have eleven 9 availability. But good enough for home use.
I'm not saying it's a good idea, but this myth about cloud reliability is a myth lately - all the corps have started squeezing for profit at the cost of reliability and availability.
Many leak metadata and/or have serious security concerns.
Most threat models don’t include state level or equally well funded/motivated actors.
Some of those, in theory, are fine for most corporate usage - when used or implemented by knowledgeable people. Shipping it as a consumer product is a bit rougher of a story, although most companies seem to cope by not giving a shit (lol, oof)
Joking of course, but I am playing around with a similar setup, I should try it over the actual internet and see how much it sucks.
Now I am arguing with myself if you would want to run it over an encrypted tunnel. Theoretically no, but drive encryption is not really designed to protect data in transit who knows what sidechannel data would leak, so maybe... and the tunnel probably has better authentication than iscsi
https://github.com/blobcache/blobcache/blob/master/doc/0.2_W...
You can persist arbitrary hash-linked data structures in Blobcache volumes. One such data structure is the Git-Like Filesystem, which supports the usual files and trees.
https://github.com/blobcache/blobcache/blob/master/doc/8.5_G...
Technically, this could be as simple as a Samba server behind Wireguard, but you could also, or in addition, look into other projects like Nextcloud especially if you are interested in sharing files with people.
yeah, this sets off my vibe-coding-detector as well.
the readme recommends installing fuse3 with Pacman, but then installing rclone by downloading the binary to /usr/local/bin, even though there's an Arch package [2] for it. I don't think that's a recommendation an experienced Arch user would ever make (at least, not without mentioning the alternatives)
0: https://github.com/dadtronics/protondrive-linux/blob/main/RE...
1: https://github.com/dadtronics/protondrive-linux/blob/main/se...