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Microsoft admits almost all major Windows 11 core features are broken

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41 pointsjosephcsible10 comments

It's worth pointing out what a hideous cludge lots of Win10 ui is. I remember some ui expert complaining how there are half a dozen (maybe more, i don't remember) completely different ui interfaces. The most prominent ones of course is that horrible rectangle thing that's meant to be the start menu. Windows 11 didn't do a worse job, that would be almost impossible, but it's not much better. Then there was openly breaking functionality and discoverability by having a settings app as well as the old control panel, which is an absolute abomination. The manager app probably looked old fashioned on Windows xp.

All of that was ok, because Win10 looks and feels quite nice overall and was a significant upgrade compared to 7. Win11 has none of that saving grace. They needed to fix the many disasters of Win10, not introduce new ones.

I guess this is what it looks like when your company goes all in on vibe coding. Releasing features faster than ever, and more broken than ever.

Yep. I had ~10 Win11 systems with uninstallable updates - which wound up log-jamming WU. These began appearing in October. I was able to (eventually) repair all but 2. One of those has resisted every repair method.

For some other systems, when I hover over explorer process in the taskbar, I'll have the expected preview windows + 1 incompletely rendered one to the right.

On 1 system I have remote desktop windows that go goofy when left overnight and won't obey controls. They only option that works is to r-click on their taskbar instance and choose Full Screen. Nothing else works; top bar controls don't even manifest. For some reason, each RDP window has has a small, empty, unresponsive, vertical oval in the top center of the desktop.

I had 2 system (+ a 3rd yesterday) where the start menu went wonky. One won't show all apps and the other two show corrupt icons and won't respond to right clicks.

This isn't a complete list but it gives you an idea how it's going.

> For some reason, each RDP window has has a small, empty, unresponsive, vertical oval in the top center of the desktop

Ahh, the notch...

Clickbait. But if you want to see what the president of Windows + devices actually said:

https://x.com/pavandavuluri/status/1989764300488245266

If you're saying that Microsoft (still) isn't owning up to the massive amount of brokenness they're recently churning out, I could believe that as well.

so to paraphrase:

> GO: windows has become terrible for developers and this AI focus makes it worse

> PD: we listen to feedback, people want reliability etc. we care deeply about developers. we know we have to improve on [things which you didn't bring up at all]. we will continue improving.

... I honestly don't think I need to explain why they got ratio'd.

> windows has become terrible for developers and this AI focus makes it worse

Except it's not totally terrible. What makes it terrible is the privacy invasions and the consent issues Microsoft has with its users, along with long standing bugs in W11.

The other hand of Microsoft is actually putting a lot of convenient stuff in for developers. WSL w/ graphics support, Windows Terminal is nice (and is getting some nice features they just showed off at ignite), native git integration is coming to file explorer, PowerToys has some really great utilities, and making your own extensions for command palette is dead easy.

There's even a macOS preview-like utility for file explorer now, sudo, native SSH, winget (which can be automated with a simple yaml file to automate a new box setup using DSC), etc.

It's the classic Microsoft org chart problem where each is in their own bubble pointing guns at each other.

Windows could objectively be the best OS for developers, easily, if Microsoft cared enough to make it so. Their surface hardware isn't bad either, and the surface laptop is the only windows laptop on the market with a trackpad that's anywhere close to Apple's.

That's what makes Microsoft so frustrating lately. I used to like Windows, I want to like it and use it again, but Microsoft keeps shooting themselves in the foot over and over again, screwing everyone over in the process.

Gotta hand it to the out of box experience -- that first login after an update where you don't really expect things to work and wouldn't be too surprised that the symptoms cleaned up after a reboot.

xxHx update...

Chug, chug, chug, burp!

"Something didn't go as planned--No need to worry Undoing charges. Welcome..."

Chug, chug, chug, burp!

"Something didn't go as planned--No need to worry Undoing charges. Welcome..."

INPLACE RE-INSTALL WITH DOWNLOADED UPDATES WORKS

Months later, xxHx update...

Chug, chug, chug, burp!

"Something didn't go as planned--No need to worry Undoing charges"

Been going on since 23H2.

If only it noted what didn't go as planned. Maybe CBS.log says something... might have to look at these someday

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