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Programming without IDE in 21st century is like making fire with stones and wood sticks.

A required skill for survival in the woods, not something to do daily.

This point of view applies to any programming language.

By the way you use two languages as example, that are decades behind Lisp regarding GC technology and native code generation.

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I view code in many contexts though - diffs in emails, code snippets on web pages, in github's web UI, there are countless ways in which I need to read a piece of code outside of my preferred editor. And it is nicer, in my opinion, to read languages that have visually distinct parts to them. I'm sure it is because I'm used to it, but it really makes it hard to switch to a language that looks so uniform and requires additional tools outside of my brain to take a look at it.

You are free to criticize or look down on the way other people work. That doesn't change the silliness of the assertion that infix operator brain damage is the reason we aren't all using Lisp right now. It's totally valid to argue that we are all missing out on the benefits of superpowered interpreter-compilers like SBCL and Chez. But prefix math operators are only a small part of the reason why.

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