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Would you accept other countries blowing up Americans because some Americans bring drugs and other things into other countries?

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Yeah... If you are smuggling large amounts of fentanyl or weapons into another country and they shoot you that seems pretty ok.

The normal thing that every country does is to interdict, board, and inspect. That's how it has been for hundreds of years of maritime law.

> If you are smuggling large amounts of fentanyl or weapons into another country and they shoot you that seems pretty ok.

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Also, there's great reasons to have punishments for crimes that are not just summary executions. Even if you have a warped morality where all criminals of any sort should die, there's _still_ great reasons to not allow that to be chosen by the closest person with a gun. That way lies chaos and corruption.

Did you read the post I was replying to?

If other countries were bombing US boats in the Gulf of Mexico, closer to the US and hundreds or thousands of miles away from the country doing the bombing, would you be okay with that?

Why limit it to boats? Maybe he would support shooting down American civilian planes if claimed they had drugs on board. I’m sure he would support that.

So if China CLAIMS without evidence that Americans smuggle large amounts of fentanyl or weapons on international water then you are OK with them killing Americans? Would it include your family if it was claimed they are smugglers?

How do you know that already doesn’t happen? Not necessarily blowing up but I’m sure there’s a gulf of dead people with US citizenship who have been killed by various states for participating in drug activities and illegal activity at large.

And you support the killing of Americans? You think it is legal to kill Americans if you claim they had drugs on them.

Try smuggling a smartphone to north korea and see what happens

You think Americans are killed on international water by North Korea and that US says it is legal to kill americans?

If I’m on a boat a thousand miles from North Korea and I’ve got a smartphone in my pocket, should I be blown to pieces?

You wanna look up what China does in south sea

what china does matters how?

Singapore has given many foreigners the death penalty for drug smuggling and I couldnt care less actually

If youre implying the people being killed are innocent countrymen of the real criminals then of course I object. Everything I have said applies to people actually comitting crimes

"Penalty" is the key word here. Like, issued by a judge, after proper judgement according to the law of the land. Not random shooting people without any due process.

This will definitely get lost in the conversation but like I said right up front, I dont actually agree with killing them. It seems that we ought to be able to intercept these boats and process them as suspects of a crime. It just rubs me the wrong way how every issue gets written up as a one-sided narrative of good vs evil depending on who you support politically.

The issue here is we have zero evidence any actual crimes were being committed - because we blew up the evidence from afar before we even saw it.

Seems rather incompatible with a justice system, and hard to distinguish from random military action.

After their day in court. We are talking about killing Americans without evidence and without due process.

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