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Once you start to recognize AI written, rewritten or even edited articles, it’s hard to stop.

It’s not X it’s Y. We didn’t just do A we did B.

There’s definitely a lot of hard work that has gone in here. It’s gotten hard to read because of these sentence patterns popping up everywhere.

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Dunnow, reads fine to me, also seems we now have a #nothingisreal problem now where everything is AI. Given that LLMS were trained on pre-existing writing it follows that people commonly write like that.

overall I think things have gotten better. I noticed maybe 3 years before chatGPT hit the scene that I would frequent on a page that definitely didn't seem written by a native English speaker. The writing was just weird. I see less of that former style now.

Probably the biggest new trend I notice is this very prominent "Conclusion" block that seems to show up now.

Honestly I'd love to see some data on it. I suspect a lot of "that's LLM slop" isn't and others isn't noticed and lots of LLM tropes were rife within online content long before LLMs but we're now hypersensitive to certain things since they're overused by LLMs.

> Dunnow, reads fine to me, also seems we now have a #nothingisreal problem now where everything is AI. Given that LLMS were trained on pre-existing writing it follows that people commonly write like that.

Also we may have already reached a point where people are exposed so much to it they start talking naturally like AI.

We've seen it before, with the advent of internet and short text messages on mobile phone and the evolution of the music genres the writing and speaking capacity of the general population has gown downhill over the last 3 decades. I was watching video archives from the 70's and 80's a few days ago. It was striking to see that bar a few illiterate ones most random people from any social class interviewed in the streets 40-50 years ago would talk in a much more intelligible, eloquent and pleasant way than the best public orators of the 2020's.

You're absolutely right

True now.

At the same time, as a nonnative speaker of English, this is literally how we were taught to write eye-catching articles and phrases. :P

A lot of formulaic writing is what we were taught to do, especially with more formal things. (This is more of a sidenote to this example)

So in a hunt for LLMs, we also get hit.

I believe this is likely a consequence of how RLHF is done. I’ve not verified it, but I suspect the frontier model labs are outsourcing it to companies employing primarily non-native English speakers.

Back in the days I've heard it's why delve is so popular; as it's common in Nigerian English.

I learned it from MtG and I do believe it's a very cool word and I hate that I can't use it without people raising their eyebrows.

I agree - “delve” is often a perfectly cromulent word :)

It is some kind of new Law (that ought to be named after someone) that people who write about AI are likely using it to do that writing.

(Even ironically sometimes observed in cases when the writing is disparaging of AI and the use of AI).

If the subject matter is AI, you should instantly pay attention and look for the signs it was AI assisted or generated outright.

That example sentence read more like a part of a LinkedIn post.

... Wait a minute!

You can remove this easily. We wrote a paper on how to remove this slop from LLMs.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.15061

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