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> what was sold with a name of Starship included much more things than getting stage 2 into orbit

...what was it? Are you talking about HLS? Propellant transfer? (The latter is absolutely "getting its mass into orbit.")

Which of those has been either officially cancelled or had its delays materially impact the customer's timeline?

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None of them were cancelled. But none of them exist in any form or shape remotely reassembling the product - therefore - vaporware. It's that simple.

But also, since you're telling me there had been no material impacts to the customers timelines, sorry, I don't think you're arguing in good faith, so I'm not going to engage here anymore.

In this thread your pedantic definition of vaporware seems to hinge on a compatibility between spec and delivery that has not existed once in the history of frontier engineering, so I'm not sure good faith is in high supply here in any case.

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