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> If you take a random person and teleport them between a random mix of Canadian and US cities, I think they'll find it hard to tell the two countries apart. The primary language is English, the accent is the same, the streets and buildings look the same, people watch/listen/read much of the same media, and so on.

On the surface, I agree 100%. Dig deeper and the differences are stark.

Years ago I came from Australia to work at a ski resort in the US. I stayed 6 months, had a great time. At the end I went to Canada to see a friend. After 30 minutes in Canada I felt more at home than after 6 months in the US.

Canada is a friendly, kind, gentle place, everything the US is not.

I’ve now lived in Canada for 20 years, been to almost every province and territory. I’ve also and travelled extensively in the US (40+ states). It’s a fun place to visit and parts are spectacularly beautiful, I do not want to live there. Now I have a young daughter it’s doubly so.

Yes, I’m generalizing and using broad strokes. The thing about generalizations is they’re usually right.

Canada feels like being surrounded by friends and family, I have no doubt the expression “dog eat dog” comes from the US.

> Canada is a friendly, kind, gentle place, everything the US is not.

In what ways do you find northern midwest US states (Minnesota, Wisconsin, etc.) substantially less "friendly" than Canada?

As I was driving my daughter to daycare this morning I saw the garbage men. A road worker filling in pot holes, a person holding the stop sign and someone digging a hole in the road. They all have the same healthcare I do. Canadians all pay taxes, and work together for the betterment of everyone, and it shows. It’s a community, a society people are happy strangers have a good standard of living.

The US is a competitive sport where everyone is competing with everyone else. Driving past a lowly person holding a stop sign it’s just literally “sucks to be them” and no ability to help or do anything about it.

There are 30 million people in the US without health insurance. There are none in Canada. Medical issues are the number one cause of bankruptcy in the US. In Canada there are none.

Obviously health care is just one example, and there are plenty of kind and friendly people in the US. But living under conditions like that is not a happy, healthy society of people that care about strangers and care for each other. It’s a “look out for me” place.

The more I go there (I was down there last week), the more I see the vast majority of Americans live in a scarcity mindset. Of course the high GDP means not scarce in terms of consumption, but in terms of things that actually impact quality of life day to day.

Sounds like a lot of projecting... The U.S. doesn't have single-payer healthcare therefore it's a dystopian hell-scape where everyone hates each other.

> “sucks to be them”

There are large swathes of the US where I would be shocked to hear anyone express that sentiment. There are other parts where I would not be shocked, but then the US is 10X bigger than Canada so you do get to pick and choose which version you'd like to be part of.

Of course healthcare is just one example of many, and as I said originally, yes I’m generalizing a very large country and population.

I’m giving my observations over 20 years in Canada and exploring the us extensively.

> so you do get to pick and choose which version you'd like to be part of.

Thank you, you have proved my point better than I did.

You literally just said “there are parts of the country where my fellow countrymen, People who make the country function, have families , hopes and dreams have a crappy life. I just choose not to be there”

That is my point exactly. The us is not a community where people care for each other. They just ignore or move away if they can.

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