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My guess would be that all those people that wanted small phones had an iPhone SE and now all their data is locked into Apple's walled garden and that's why they will begrudgingly buy a larger phone, even though they would have preferred a smaller one.

In short: Apple can get away with ignoring what those customers want.

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I mean, I would assume most folks who liked the SE still have one. The SE 3 just stopped production this year and should have several years of software updates left (the SE 1 just ended software support this year, 7 years after it was discontinued.

The 3 is not really an SE. It's an iphone 8

When people say SE in the context of wanting skaller phones they generally mean SE 1, which has about the same form factor as iPhone 5.

Not hard to take your data anywhere you wish.

Not hard only when you know exactly what you need to do already on both sides.

There is zero chance I could convince any of my in-laws to switch away from iOS. Data isn't what they care about. It's all about blue bubbles and a decade of familiarity with iOS (and it's irrelevant that the UX between Android and iOS have drifted to be so similar).

Android still looks too ugly for me. It seems like I’ll always be missing WebOS while sticking with iOS.

It couldn't be easier to export or import your data, connect and disconnect your accounts, etc. I'd like the angry hackers who are down voting me to explain which barriers exactly Apple puts against data portability.

I don't understand why you're brining up your in-laws in your response if they don't care about data.

How can I so easily export my entire photo library from my iPhone?

Connect your phone and open Image Capture app. It's included in every version of MacOS.

I do not have a mac. Just an iPhone.

Then you should use a different solution to solve your problem, which you can easily find. Unless your main interest is having a problem to complain about. In that case, you've already found the solution.

I have searched. So far, the best solution I've found is setting up an Immich instance. Which is pretty preposterous, if you ask me.

First Kagi result:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/120267

"Import to your Windows PC

1. Install the Apple Devices app from the Microsoft Store.

2. Connect your iPhone or iPad to your PC with a USB cable.

etc etc"

Linux. I do not own a Windows or macOS machine.

Ah, then I'll put you squarely into the category of people who enjoy things never working ;)

(I actually appreciate you doing a Kagi search for me, btw. I've heard great things about Kagi, and it would've been great if something came up there that didn't on DDG or Google.)

My whole digital life other than my iPhone works very well! Never better, really. Been Linux-exclusive for years after switching after the release of Windows 10.

Just a real pity that iOS doesn't provide something as simple as a proper export feature. A kicker is that the Photos app does allow you to "Export Unmodified Original" for multiple photos or even whole albums. But you can't do this to everything in Photos (what used to be called the camera roll). There's no "select all" button to work around this.

I have to retreat my statement then a little bit, in that it's easy to get your data out of Apple, with the exception of Linux. But Linux is usually the exception for any kind of user convenience stuff, and Linux users know what they're getting themselves into.

The point is, that since Apple is providing dedicated tools both for Mac and for Windows to get your photos off your phone, I don't think it's fair to accuse them of trying to lock in people to their devices.

Same with other stuff like bookmarks, passwords, etc.

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