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After all networked smartphones and computers were placed under control of the regime, resistance hackers relied on microcontrollers harvested from ordinary household devices like smart lamps and vape pens to slowly rebuild the covert but resilient mesh internetwork that became known as FreeNet.

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Congratulations, welcome to the dev team of Collapse OS. https://collapseos.org/

Now they are more focused on supply chain break down but your scenario would also be valid.

When I think of what's out there I think of cheapy ARMs, maybe STM32 knock offs. Honestly the F103C8T6 is so prolific that's probably a solid chunk of all processors in existence. And then things like ESP32s. So to not see ARM or Tenscillica on there is a bit weird. But maybe I'm reading too much into it and it's more of a thought experiment

My first time seeing Collapse OS as well, but I'm guessing the decision is based in attempting to contain complexity.

Seems like the author has a related projected Dusk OS that is more portable:

https://duskos.org/

Looking at that list, collapse OS seems to cater to 8-bit only. It’s also aimes at “ built from scavenged parts” boards. I’ve often come across Hitachi h8, Blackfin, PIC, avr, the occasional ARM and other controllers in the wild. But they all have one thing in common: the flash is locked and inaccessible without some jtag tools. The only times you’ll see external flash (winbond & co) is with an fpga or a controller who’s had his otp memory configured with a bootloader.

I often re-purpose scavenged board because of their useful layout, but only after swapping the controller for a programmable one. The notion of scavenging the controllers themselves… far less practical as you think.

I mean there are countless examples of IoT devices getting hacked because they didn't do that but I guess

The iot devices are hacked on the application layer. You have a controller running some linux distro and you work your way in over tty/telnet/eth. That’s an entirely different ballgame than repurposing 8-bit avr or 32-bit STM microcontrollers.

https://duskos.org/

The future is Forth? We're... Forthed!

My dad used to write Forth ... for fun.

I find it ironic that post-apocalypse we must rely on a language that is post-apocalypse.

Like monkeys gathering at the monolith…

Someone write a novel please. Not sure who will be more appropriate: Stross (more fun?), Stephenson (more of a slog through the first 600 pages, then an abrupt 180 and frenetic action in the last 100 with newly introduced, yet game-changing characters?).

Stross, because you get the added value of seeing him hate any new concepts he uses 10+ years later.

Cory Doctorow perhaps? At first glance I thought the OP was quoting him.

This was literally a plot element in "Big Brother" - the protagonists use modded xboxes to create a mesh network to avoid government surveillance.

Agreed on the ridiculous page counts, but I don't find Stephenson's pages a slog. Exhausting, maybe. There's a lot going on. But he makes me laugh. I'd like to meet that guy.

I really love Stephenson's world building and detailed research, but I get the feeling he himself gets bored with the book at a certain point :)

So I vote Stross

Fits well with William Gibson. The Turing-police will visit anybody who consumes more than 5 yearly vapes.

I see there's a TV adaptation of Neuromancer coming out.

I'm a little disappointed that they didn't have it directed by an AI reconstruction of David Lynch, because that would have been so very fitting.

Then a end midsentence and a black page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Peace_War closest you can get to vape insurgency

> Stephenson (more of a slog through the first 600 pages, then an abrupt 180 and frenetic action in the last 100 with newly introduced, yet game-changing characters?).

With the six pages in the middle where he may as well say "Right, I had to learn a lot of algebra for compiler optimisation to make this bit work, so now you get to learn it too"

It's not the greatest piece of fiction ever written, but Robert Evans of Behind the Bastards podcast has a pretty easy read[1]. It's also offered as a free audiobook read by him as a series of podcasts.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_the_Revolution

Might not be what you want if you want more technical & hacking versus dystopian capitalism collapse. But he gets bonus points for Texas getting nuked as a lore point.

The FreeNet is an amazing and wonderful solution to the current problem of a free network. At least for me :)

Maybe this is not such a bad side of history to be on after all.

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