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The crux of the article was altman trying to get a bailout, and when people called him on his bullshit, lying thay he never wanted a bailout. You cant trust the man

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It looks like the actual crux was Altman's plea that the backtops be granted... Not to OpenAI? The document linkedfrom the article that had the actual ask, rather than cleanup over deliberate misatributions by others, was to... "Extend eligibility", for the AMIC money already carved out, to companies that are producers of things such as "grid components such as transformers and specialized steel".

So: Altman did not ask for OpenAI loans to be guaranteed, nor did the CFO. It was on behalf of others drawn into the needs of the industry the AMIC grant was supposed to support. Self interested by OpenAI? Sure! And also not about to make the top 10k leaderboard for "sleezy things companies do".

You cant be this naive. You have to read between the lines. Altman has laready shown hes willing to boil us frogs with his attempts IPO a non profit. Hes slimy, he doesnt just say things and stand by them, he tests the waters and lies about ever wanting to swim if its too cold.

He called for general bailouts, which would benefit OAI far far more than others since its spending the most, and then he got backlash, he lied and said that OAI doesnt want bailouts at all.

You cant be so literalist to just take the man at his exact word and not try to determine his motivations. Especially this guy, whos made a career out of dancing around silicon valley's "no assholes" policy

The CFO literally asked for guaranteed loans, tell me that’s not what she meant, don’t tell me not to believe my eyes and ears. Not only did I hear it, but David “AI Czar, king of the all-in bros” Sacks heard it the same way along with everyone else who heard it.

She said "guaranteed loans" and everybody heard "bailouts" and that's what everybody is reacting to.

Guaranteed loans are a completedly different thing and are still debatable, as I expand here -- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45839060 -- but that's not the debate I'm seeing anywhere.

He might be fun to play a board game with but not in real life.

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