Tbh, and I usually do not like this way of thought, but these are lawsuits waiting to happen.
> I have seen more than once people using ChatGPT as a psychologist and psychiatrist and self diagnosing mental illnesses.
I've heard quite a few mouthfuls of how harmful LLM advice is for mental health patients - with specific examples. I'm talking on the order of suicide attempts (and at least one success) and other harmful effects to the patient and their surroundings as well. If you know of someone using an LLM for this purpose, please encourage them to seek professional help. Or just point them at this comment - anybody is encouraged to contact me. I'm not a mental health practitioner, but I work with them and I'll do my best to answer their questions or point them to someone who can. My Gmail username is the same as my HN username.
Basically there needs to be an LLM that can push back.
So who cares. It's like saying nobody drives a car because the thing that's moving them is just a thing that is not a car but acts like a car to an extent that it is indistinguishable. Ok then. It's a car. Good day sir.
You are invited to answer here or in private. My Gmail username is the same as my HN username.
From my viewpoint it speaks more to a problem of the healthcare system.
You are completely right... insert some emoji
Shaking my head.
It would be an interesting experiment to see models which aren't sycophantic being used
as such, What is the least sycophantic LLM model if I may ask?
What is the disaster?
That wasn't too buried IMHO
I would say ChatGPT is way way better than the average therapist. I’ve seen maybe between 15-20 psychotherapists over the course of my life and ChatGPT is better than 85% of them I would wager.
I’ve had a therapist recommend me take a motorbike trek across Europe (because that’s what he did) to cure my depression.
I think people tend to radically overestimate the skills of the average therapist, many are totally fucking shit.
It's not bad advice.
When I try to help people in support group/ therapy group although I am not a therapist, I also try to explain how I fixed my issues or how I do so.
I feel like, that isn't bad take to be really honest in the sense that I personally feel like there are times when we lose the fact that our lives have purpose and your therapist grappled with it by having a unitary goal for himself
If you felt like that was a bad idea, just tell him that what is the thing that they got out of the motorbike trek race that cured their depression, I'd be more curious about that. Considering, maybe then I can try to see if my life has/had the same problems and what is the common theme and discussing about it later.
Personally I feel like Chatgpt is extremely sycophantic and I feel really weird interacting with it. For one, I really like interacting with humans atleast in the therapy mindset I suppose.
I could get better advice by asking an LLM what to do about my depression.
I still doubt asking an LLM about depression if I am being honest, I just don't think its the best thing overall or something that should be considered norm I suppose but I am not sure as even in things like these context matters.
> That wasn't too buried IMHO
I read that, but still fail to see evidence of a concrete "disaster". For example, are we seeing a huge wave of suicides that are statistical outliers triggered by using Chatbots? Or maybe the worry (unsubstantiated) is that there's a lagging effect and the disaster is approaching.
I suspect the outcomes are going to be less catastrophic; specifically, it seems to me that more people will have access to a much better level of support than they could get with a therapist (who is not available 24/7, who has less to draw upon, is likely too expensive, etc.). Even if there's an increase in some harm, my instinct from first principles is that the net benefit will be clear.
Something more complex, more towards clinical psychiatry rather than shoulder to cry on/complaining to friend over coffee (psychologists)? You are playing a russian roulette that model in your case won't hallucinate something harmful, while acting very confidently, more than any relevant doctor would be.
There have been cases of models suggesting suicide for example or general harmful behavior. There is no responsibility, no oversight, no expert to confirm or refute claims. Its just a faster version of reddit threads.