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EFF is bought and paid for. Not once does this piece mention that "AI" and humans are different and that a digital combine harvester mowing down and ingesting the commons does not need the same rights as a human.

It is not fair use when the entire output is made of chopped up quotes from all of humanity. It is not fair use when only a couple of oligarchs have the money and grifting ability to build the required data centers.

This is a another in the long lists of institutions that have been subverted. ACLU and OSI are other examples.

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What definition of "sufficiently transformative" doesn't include "a book about wizards" by some process being used to make "a machine that spits out text"? A magazine publisher has a more legitimate claim against the person making a ransom letter: at least the fonts are copied verbatim.

There are legitimate arguments to be made about whether or not AI training should be allowed, but it should take the form of new legislation, not wild reinterpretations of copyright law. Copyright law is already overreaching, just imagine how goddawful companies could be if they're given more power to screw you for ever having interacted with their "creative works".

We did have that. In some EU countries, during the cassette tape and Sony Walkman era, private individuals were allowed to make around 5 copies for friends from a legitimate source.

Companies were not allowed to make 5 trillion copies.

I am pretty sure companies keep one copy of each item.

> It is not fair use when only a couple of oligarchs have the money and grifting ability to build the required data centers.

Seems like a good argument to not lock down the ability to create and use AI models only to those with vast sums of money able to pay extortionist prices from copyright holders. And let's be clear, copyright holders will happily extort the hell out of things if they can, for an example of this we can look to the number of shows and movies that have had to be re-edited in the modern era because there are no streaming rights to the music they used.

> EFF is bought and paid for.

by whom?

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