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2400 hp sounds like a lot, but a Model X Plaid is 1020 hp. I assume it couldn't output 1020 hp for as long though.

The Plaid can only output its maximum power at 100% state-of-charge (or close to it).

As state-of-charge decreases, so does the overall battery pack voltage. Since the motors can only pull some peak number of amps, doing so at lower pack voltage will always deliver less total power.

I own a Model S Plaid and I used to pay close attention to the OBD-II data, out of curiosity.

torque is the more important figure. Which is why 13l truck engines output only about 600hp.

I never understood why people care about torque from an engine when it's going to be connected to a gearbox that can convert the torque to whatever you want anyway. So why is torque a more important spec than power for an engine?

It's usually because there's an implicit "everything else the same" - and so if you build a car engine entirely focusing on peak horsepower you might end up with a dog because the curve isn't well suited to the rest of the design, whereas if you build it for maximum low-end torque you get a kick in the pants (and then strip all the gears or snap an axle).

Especially since people often consider "horsepower" to be things like turbos, etc that have their own spool-up requirements and result in inability to launch well.

An F1 gearbox can convert your torque to HP, but the gearing may or may not survive very long. If, like marine or rail applications, you need a fairly constant output power that isn't brutal on the spinning bits of metal, you will optimize for high torque at relatively low RPM.

They are related by the shaft speed anyway.

The reason that a lot of applications consider torque is that's more efficient to operate near the required shaft speed than it is to run faster and gear down. You fight more inertia in the engine at higher speed, and you add rotating mass with your gearbox.

I had an old coworker who had a fox body Mustang. He liked to say "Horsepower doesn't win [drag] races, torque does."

One day we were out servicing a conveyor drive with a 5hp motor attached to a gear reducer. I pointed out the spec plate on the reducer, it claimed an output of more than a thousand foot-pounds of torque.

"So this thing should be able to beat your Mustang in a race, eh?"

Horsepower is just torque * RPM.

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