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It's hard to see someone living under a rock for this long suddenly deciding to switch the Mac.

I suspect iPhone adoption has done a lot more toward Mac adoption.

I was under that rock. Bought a used M1 pro this year for $600 and tossed the wheezing XPS 15 aside.

We have a 2015 MPB that can no longer receive OS updates, because apple reasons. And because it can't get the latest OS, it can no longer run Signal, or the latest Adobe stuff that we need. So we ditched Apple and bought a Dell. So far it's working great.

Get back to us if that Dell makes it 10 years without catastrophic failure or pieces falling off.

Dell XPS or whatever the new name is, or their premium line? You’ll be fine in 10 years. Dell low-end garbage? Not a chance.

Want me to tell you about my 3 failed MacBook Pro logic boards?

Hate to say it, but Macs aren't any better. I've worked on literally thousands of laptops, and you win some, and you lose some. There are some shitty Dells, and some good Dells, and there are some shitty MacBooks and some good MacBooks.

I even have a couple of old Dells that are about 10 years old now. Working just fine too.

Only 3? We had eight failed MBP motherboards before Apple finally told us the next replacement would cost us $1200. We joined a class action lawsuit against Apple and won. My wife refuses to give Apple another dollar, and she owns Apple stock.

Which lawsuit was that?

I think it’s been a while since there was a MBP MLB lawsuit but maybe I’m forgetting about one.

This is the last one I recall.

“Apple faces class-action lawsuit over 2011 MacBook Pro GPU issues“

https://9to5mac.com/2014/10/28/apple-class-action-lawsuit-20...

> We have a 2015 MPB that can no longer receive OS updates, because apple reasons

That CPU was dropped from Windows 10 support with 22H2, pretty much the same time that Apple stopped supporting it in macOS. The last build of Windows 10 supporting that CPU reached "end of service" more than two years ago.

Microsoft officially supports Windows 10 22H2 on every CPU supported by previous versions of Windows 10; Windows "Supported Processor" lists are for OEMs building new PCs, not end users updating existing systems.

According to the current supported processor list, the oldest Intel CPU supported by Windows 7 was introduced about 5 years after Windows 7 itself [1].

[1] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/mi...

For certain non-critical computers (like my Mac mini in the living room whose primary job is to run Spotify), you might want to look at Open Core - which will let you update to a modern macOS.

It’s a great feeling to get years more life out of your old system with about an hour of work.

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