Prediction for the future: OpenAI IPO's lots of money changes hands, it chugs along for a while, hits a hard spot and then is taken private for pennies on the dollar by Microsoft.
But I think you're totally incorrect on this; oAI is going to be one of the enduring tech consumer brands built in this half of the 21st century.
They definitely have a strong consumer brand so it’s not like they’re going to disappear, but I understand the bear case.
The average public investor buying pre-IPO shares, though, is a different story.
I think it's highly likely in the next 10 years companies like Spotify and Uber will no longer exist. They're fundamentally antogonistic to their capital.
It's the same problem for Uber. Many Uber drivers make a negative wage. They don't know it, because nobody is going to tell them, but if you do the math, depending on your location, vehicle, and rates, you make a negative wage. Due to gas cost, tolls, maintenance, etc.
The problem here is that the uber drivers and artists are the only thing that makes the platform worth using. Spotify might think their capital is technology. That's because they're stupid. No, their capital is the library of music artists put on there.
If you continue to just antagonize and destroy your own capital that you're using to make money, your business will be blow up.
It’s essentially a pie that gets divided up amongst all artists by steam count. If your friend’s garage band are angry that they only get 0.001 cents per stream then they should be angry at Spotify listeners for streaming too much Taylor Swift!!!
Furthermore to pay the artists Spotify has to pay the labels and of course they take a giant cut. This trope of Spotify being an evil corporation is unfair
I mean, it sounds great. Pay 10-15 bucks a month and listen to all the music you want, whenever you want. What an amazing business idea!
But has anyone stepped back and asked if this is actually possible? Because when your artists are getting paid crumbs I don't see how this system continues.
So I wonder if there would ever be a middle ground between what artists would accept and what users would pay?
There is a time limit for shareholders to make return on that investment and so far their operating costs are astronomical given they don't yet seem to offer any substantial product that can't be without, if anything, they're pushing people further away from AI with the slop their churning out.
reference : https://www.reuters.com/business/openai-lays-groundwork-jugg...
I am curious why you think that, they're early to market but that by no means guarantees them a long term place at the table.
Given the froth in the market right now, I think there is a good chance the IPO gets scrapped if we are talking mid 2026. An IPO at a trillion would work right now but mid 2026 is a long ways away.
Like how the Deepseek moment feels like ancient history but it wasn't even a year ago.
There is no clear path to the trillion dollars today. By IPOing, the owners (who have a good idea of where it's going) can exchange their ticket to the trillion for cash today.
Seems like a bad deal unless you know the ticket won't get called. Then you've just made bank.
And you might have noticed some form of hype around AI these last few years - arguably this could be to make the trillion dollar seem more realistic and therefore making the owners more money when selling their ticket to it.
If the financial future of OpenAI is not as rosy as they say it is then there is a fair chance that post IPO the stock will not rise. There are plenty of signs that this is the case, including the 'erotic' version of ChatGPT slated for release in December, the strong push to monetize even the most inane interactions and the mention of advertising as a possible source of income. All of those combined tell me that OpenAI is seriously worried about their bottom line.
But Microsoft already has a bottom line and AI is the one way in which they could put one over on Google, which they've been dying to do for many years.
So the logical progression to me seems to be:
- do the IPO, everybody associated with OpenAI will be filthy rich (including MS)
- attempt to polish up the financials
- if that fails activate plan B, have Microsoft make an offer to take OpenAI private again
The hype around this IPO increases the chance the stock will drop post IPO.