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"Your browser is out of date. Update your browser to view this site properly."

it always makes me sad when i see this. you are not reaching your target audience. fyi this seems to be a cloudflare thing. i see it everywhere. The World Wide Web seems to be going down a dark path. perhaps i do need to update my browser, but why should that matter for just reading a news site. it's like someone wants you to not have access unless you buy a new macbook(or maybe a chromebook). maybe i should just install Chrome already? i just feel like this Big Tech has crossed the line with their customers a long time ago at this point.

btw, fair.org looks interesting. i never heard of them before. Thanks!

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Works fine here, firefox/linux with ublock origin

Works for me on Firefox / MacOS

does it similarly make you sad if your operating system tells you to update for new security patches or indicators?

the sheer volume of browser exploits - including in-the-wild exploited zero-click zero days - is frankly insane. intentionally leaving yourself unprotected is a bad choice that should be shoved back in your face, often.

> i see it everywhere.

i see it nowhere. update your software! and don't use chrome.

they were not informing him of an insecurity.

and software monoculture is widely considered a security threat, and so by pushing software monoculture, you yourself are pushing to weaken internet security. GP should potentially be applauded (if he's not using for example IE6)

i’m genuinely fascinated by your thought process here.

how did we go from “update your software; don’t use chrome” to “you are pushing software monoculture and weakening internet security”?

as for “they were not informing him of an insecurity”, this seems to be deliberately obtuse. virtually every major browser includes (and references in their release notes!) fixes for vulnerabilities in stable version updates.

>how did we go from “update your software; don’t use chrome” to “you are pushing software monoculture and weakening internet security”?

given the audience here, i think it's more likely that OP/GP is running an up to date browser that is of an alternate architecture that has not "mainstreamed" all of google and hollywood's ad and drm friendly CSS HTML

That's just the generic Cloudflare blocking warning. You can use an up to date browser and if they decide to block you, you will see that message.

could you reference something from cloudflare to substantiate that?

Browse the web with Tor via an up-to-date Firefox. You will run into this page over and over again. Speaking from experience, don't feel like looking it up on CF's docs.

edit: Just ran into the same page on Chromium 141.0.7390.122 without Tor or a VPN, but with NoScript, JShelter, and uBlock extensions enabled. It looks like JShelter + NoScript can trigger it.

This is the page you get:

> Your browser is out of date. Update your browser to view this site properly.

> Click here for more information

The last line links here: https://developers.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-challenges/#bro...

Suggests to me if certain challenges fail, or give results in a certain distribution, you'll see that page.

Disabling JShelter and allowing JS lets me use the site properly.

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